Leopard to Be Delayed Until October

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Leopard to Be Delayed Until October

An Apple press release issued early Thursday afternoon says:

 

"iPhone has already passed several of its required certification tests and is on schedule to ship in late June as planned. We can't wait until customers get their hands (and fingers) on it and experience what a revolutionary and magical product it is. However, iPhone contains the most sophisticated software ever shipped on a mobile device, and finishing it on time has not come without a price -- we had to borrow some key software engineering and QA resources from our Mac OS X team, and as a result we will not be able to release Leopard at our Worldwide Developers Conference in early June as planned. While Leopard's features will be complete by then, we cannot deliver the quality release that we and our customers expect from us. We now plan to show our developers a near final version of Leopard at the conference, give them a beta copy to take home so they can do their final testing, and ship Leopard in October. We think it will be well worth the wait. Life often presents tradeoffs, and in this case we're sure we've made the right ones."

 

Our take: This is bad news on a number of levels.

 

> Apple's momentum will slow. Apple is on a roll right now - iPods passing the 100,000,000-sales mark, the iPhone on the horizon, swtichers switching - but missing such an important, highly visible deadline will most certainly give both investors and consumers pause. Comparisons to Microsoft Vista's painful, oft-delayed release won't be fair, but they will be made.

 

> Mac sales will slip. There's a tremendous amount of people who have been waiting for Leopard (and its companion iLife/iWork suites) before they'll buy their next Mac. Will they continue to wait until October? We think yes - unless Apple has the foresight to start bundling a coupon with new systems that entitles the bearer to a free copy of Leopard/iLife/iWork when it finally does ship.

 

> The rest of the Mac ecosystem will suffer. Third-party developers - especially those whose planned products rely on such Leopard features as Core Animation - will now have to wait until October for the resurces that they invested in Leopard-supported development to fire up their revenue streams. This can't be good.

 

What's your opinion of this delay? How will it affect you? Let the world know in Comments, below.

 

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Anonymous

It is now August and Apple still isn't going to give a free upgrade with a new mac purchase! I can't believe this. When I bought the at the time new iBook, I got a coupon for a free upgrade from OS 8.5 to OS 9.

The only explanations I can come up with for this are:

1) Apple is choosing a greed-driven business policy rather than a consumer-friendly common-sense one.

or

2) Apple has no idea when Leopard is actually going to be released.

I posted a comment wondering about a free upgrade with a new mac purchase today in the apple discussions part of apple.com and it was deleted for "being against the terms and agreements of the discussion group".

Apple, how about addressing your customers' concerns and questions rather than shutting them up?

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Will

I am judging by the fact that Apple is now bribing college students that if they buy any mac from now until September 16 with their student discount they will receive a free nano. In my opinion this seems like a ploy to entice students to buy now without waiting until october when they will have already been in school for 2 months. They will then make back money lost from giving out free nanos from students purchasing 10.5 in October.

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Anonymous

From this article,I think Apple attached more importance to iPhone than leopard.
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Ron J. Emery

I have to agree with the waiting to buy a new mac. I was one of those people that was waiting to buy my Mac with Leopard. I was however going to wait another 6 months after the release anyway because I have learned my lesson on having to have the "latest" version of anything, even those things Apple.

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EvilForce

Oh please, a 3 month delay isn't going to do anything. Look at the competitor Microsoft. Delayed shipping a buggy, bulky, retarded OS 1 year and they are still doing fine. Shipping a typically clean, sexy Mac OS 3 months late won't do anything negative.

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paulex

Well it is great apple has the forsight to explain why the delay. I feel we will all at the end accept it is better to wait for the real thing than a rushed one.Delays are inevitable in this day and age. And october is just around the corner. People can always upgrade to leopard upon release if you want it.
U mac addicts will agree and new comers to mac will wait so what is the problem?.paulex90

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Dan from CT

My first computer was a Mac Classic II and since then I have been a windows user. I sold Mac's and Windows systems for one of the worlds largest resellers and always new Macs were better but windows systems were always cheaper. I was finally going to make the leap to getting a new Mac Powerbook, first Mac in 15 years and now I have to wait. I have been waiting for the new Mac OS and now I have to wait even longer and hope my old windows machines don't die before the new release of OS 10.5 in October.

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Impatiently Waiting

I'm still waiting on the engineers at Apple to come up with a patch to fix my Airport card so it'll communicate with my D-Link router again. Airport Extreme Update 2007-002, anyone? It's been over a month since the update ran and I've been crippled wirelessly ever since. If they were delaying the Leopard release in order to fix my wireless communication problem I'd be ecstatic, but that's not likely. I just hope I don't have to wait for a new OS in OCT to get this issue resolved. So do I care about an iPhone at the moment? NO.

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Alek

I can see the future and it's a very bad estrategic move for Apple, Why?

++ A lot of people where waiting for Leopard to make the switch and get a new mac with new OS (including myself even thought I have worked with macs a long time).

++ Now that people saw that Vista is a piece of crap they where willing to make the switch Apple lost precious time and momentum here.

++ The excuse Apple is making is really stupid, how can a billion dollar company be short off developers?

++ The Faith that Apple is putting to the Iphone could probably destroy them, itv has not been a success as they thought and now they are raising the stakes with this? It's obvious that most people can't afford the Iphone or simply dont need it.

++ Apple is betting on other grounds which are not they're strong and pushing to 2nd place what they do best which is COMPUTERS.

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Just_a_guy

I searched around the web to see some of the general opinions of people on the iPhone, and I discovered that many people would be willing to buy an equivelent phone from their own company such as Verizon because they don't want to have to pay an extra $100 to terminate their contract with their existing company, when they can get the same thing for less. Unlike the iPod, where the market for MP3 players were almost off the map at the time of introduction of a new product which got immediate press and recognition, the Cellphone market has already been established, and people are well informed about cell phones. People know that there will be an equivalent or better technologies coming out around the same time.

This choice will end up backfiring for Apple. They should have come up with their own innovative commercials which would have promoted 10.5 by making it look a generation ahead of Vista. That would have gotten tons of sales for techies. For the Newbie, they should have showed just how much easier and simpler it is to work on 10.5 than on Vista. By releasing 10.5 so late, it will stop people from comparing the to OS systems, when it would be clear that 10.5 would have come out the winner.

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nicolesm

Thanks for this information.
Thanks for all the kind words of support!

dvd-to-iphone

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dmsraz

What converted me from a 20 year PC anti-Mac man was the G4 I purchased with OSX. Over these few years I have never had a single lock-up or compatibility problem with any upgrade I have done with OSX or any other app. Over those 20 years of supporting PC's our favorite term was "Rebootion is the Solution". It amazes me that I have gone over 4 years with out a single Mac lockup. I believe its because when apple releases something its as bullet proof as can be forseen. Now my best friend with his new Vista pre-loaded laptop that won't talk to any of his pre-existing peripherals, or run many of his old development apps has had to go back to XP for awhile. So frankly, Apple, I am looking forward to Leopard, and I'll be here when you say its done. If you folks that are complaining about the delay have lived your whole computer life on a Mac, chill, you've had it so easy. You folks like me that suffered through Microsoft's standard of experimenting at our expense know how nice it is to be free. Disappointed Leopard will be delayed? Sure! Mind waiting for an Apple certified release date? No problem at all.

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Anonymous

Looks like I'll have to wait 'til Christmas to get that MacBookPro. I can live with that.


The announcements of the iPhone, AppleTV and the name change to "Apple, Inc." made me conclude that Apple has spent the past decade slowly transitioning its business focus towards the furnishing a top notch interface and user experience that could conceivably be slapped on anything.


In this case, Apple prefers to make sure people will like it once it's slapped on a phone.


If it succeeds, it'll be better for them and its stakeholders in the long-run. Leopard will be there for us when it's ready. Let's all keep in mind that the alternative is to have a buggy-knockoff-doesn't-work-with-any-software-released-5-years-ago OS force-fed to us.

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Anonymous

I currently have a PC and needed a new computer last year. But I heard Vista was coming out. So I waited. Vista came out and accidently went into an Apple site and fell in love with the Macs. I went to the apple store ready to wait for the June release of Leopard think my PC will make it. However now it wont be released till October. I now may be forced to buy a PC. Dont think my computer will make it till October and I refuse to buy a computer when I know a new Mac and better computer is coming out. And who knows if it will be coming out in October it can be delayed again. Apple may have just lost me as a potential mac user.

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ron

If wanting the new version is important then everyone will wait. Personally, i'm going to wait, and as far as the comments about the delay....well, the world is full of delays.

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Anonymous

Vista delay comparisons - not a problem. One news source I read mentioned that Leopard delay only effects Apple's sales, not a whole entourage of PC vendors, so comparisons will be few and far between. More important to Apple, folks (like me) will be delaying new laptop purchase until the Fall if they can... unless (and here's one Vista comparison they *should* risk) Apple soon announces coupon for free Leopard upgrade like MS did with Vi$ta during holiday season '06.
Cheers!

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markkus

I am one of those people who was waiting for Leopard before I bought a new Mac Pro. I've been saving for 6 months and already couldn't stand to wait until June. Now I have to wait another 4 months? My frustration renders me inarticulate, so I'll just say that this sucks.

I think you're correct that Mac sales will dip. Even though I don't want to wait anymore, I will. With Leopard's release, Apple will probably launch a new
version of the Mac Pro, making it an even more sensible, yet agonizing, decision to hold off until October.

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big dreamer

I hate the conflict in my head right now about the iphone, and this latest bit of news isnt helping. I want an iphone and I will own one, but now my debate is when. Why all the borrowed resources, why all the extra QA. Whats wrong with it. It seemed to work fine at the keynote. Should I be worried? I can live without Leopard for 3 months, third party companies will probably appreciate the extra time buffer as well. No, Apple's delay has me and my $600 for an iphone more worried than the quality of the OS.

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Richard

Like some others here, I have been waiting for June to purchase a MacBook or MacBook Pro. Rumors seemed to suggest not only the release of Leopard but of updated Macs with the Santa Rosa platform.

So, now that Leopard is not due until October, how do you think the hardware updates will be affected? Since I'm a school teacher I can't really wait until October for the new laptop. June is one thing, October a different matter altogether. I need the Summer for curriculum development. I can live without Leopard until it's perfected, but I don't know if I should just bite the bullet and get the notebook now.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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Observer

The hardware updates will not be affected so don't sweat it. Buy what you need to buy for the summer. I plan on purchasing a new desktop this summer and the Leopard delay is ok with me. I would rather see Apple get the OS right than have them release another Windows mess and have it shoved down our throats. It also allows me time to save money for my desktop. The new models are already primed and ready for the lateest version of the OS. This isn't the PC platform were the wrong machine will kill you if you don't have the proper hardware to handle the lateset security holes.

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Anonymous

We need to step back and realize why Apple has removed the "Computer" part of the company name. They are gearing towards consumer gadgets where people buy all the time and constantly buy newer versions. Can't tell you how many blackberries and iPods I have had for example. The computer and/or OS is second in priories going forward and resources will always be pulled to support the quick cash devices. Consumer gadgets are the way to go like Apple TV, etc which will support all consumers, PC or MAC.

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MacZiMiZer

Well I'm glad as usual Apple is smart enough to hold off an OS until its ready. However I don't see why they couldn't have told AT&T to shove it on the iPhone until Leopard was ready, I get that it's Apple Inc. and not Apple computers anymore, but without the developers and mac users, there is no apple, apple tv, ipods, itunes etc. do not make the company what it is. And as everyone knows, the iPhone is not going to be a big hit, everyone I know hates cingular, not a lot of people use pocket pc type phones in the first place compared to the normal sort of phone. Where as a leopard release is pretty much a 75% chance of any mac user buying a new computer. I know I'm buying my mac pro the day leopard comes out, so sorry Apple, you're out 3000 until I get my 10.5

Granted not everyone is getting a mac pro, but even at an average of 1500 per person waiting person, or let's average it to 800 for every apple user to include those who won't be buying and those that will only be buying the OS itself. Not to mention sales to third party sellers (best buy etc.) I guess this means buy Apple stock now while it slumps slightly, then jump with glee at the spike when leopard is out.

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Anonymous

I for one, will wait to buy the 2 Imacs (one for dad, one for daughter) we had planned. The coupon idea sounds great and would make my purchase in May if this were the case.

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Chris

...and why we may be better off with a delayed but mature Leopard:
MacResearch just posted this article by Alexander Griekspoor ("Mek" of mekentosj Papers fame):
http://www.macresearch.org/the_future_has_arrived_part_1_touch_screens
Be sure to watch the linked Jeff Han videos. This is something Apple had to get, get now, and get right. iPhone will just be the first showcase.
Leopard: the InsanelyMac forum lists known issues with the latest seed of 10.5 preview for developers:
http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=48246&st=0
Looks like work. I'm glad they're not rushing this one.

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Anonymous

I really want to switch to the Mac. I have always been a Windows user. With this delay, I'll probably buy a Vista PC. I know what I am getting and I can get it now. I won't have to buy an upgrade in just a few months.Also I'm concerned that if I buy an Apple now, a new model of the pc might be released in conjunction with Leopard. If that happens, I'll have paid a lot for an "old" computer. At least if I buy a V
ista pc, I know that I am buying the latest and greatest. If Apple were to include a frss upgrade coupon to Leopard, I might go ahead with the Mac.

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Christouf

Some of the comments are really depressing. People condemned to buy "old" computers (a mac with 10.4.9 perhaps?), a teenager so used to getting the latest gadget that she can't wait for her grandparents to give her the latest computer?
The marketing gurus finally won: everything over six months old is outdated, teenagers cry to get a 1500$ toy they can't even use...
So what should I do with my antique macbook (not even core 2, but just core duo) an my 10.4.9 Os?
I think I 'll just jump off the Québec Bridge. And just before I hit the water (or perhaps the ice, still floating here and there) I'll have a tought for that thirteen years old girl in Darfour waiting for a bowl of rice, just to survive another 24 hours...

Christouf

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Macintosha Fanatica

Your response is very well put! I could not agree more.

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JOE MARTINEZ

I AM A DIE HARD MACINTOSH FAN! AND I DON'T MIND WAITING FOR LEOPARD AT ALL. THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WINNING SHOULD JUST CHILL OUT AND SIT BACK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. WHEN STEVE JOBS INTRODUCED THE IPHONE AT MACWORLD, MY THOUGHT WAS THAT THE IPHONE MY DELAY LEOPARDS RELEASE. I'M SURE IT WAS A TOUGH CALL FOR APPLE AND I'M SURE THAT STEVE JOBS KEYNOTE ADDRESS AT WWDC 2007 WILL INFORM US ON WHATS GOING ON WITH LEOPARD. IN THE MEANTIME, ENJOY TIGER 10.4.9 AND S-T-O-P W-I-N-N-I-N-G!!!!!!

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Anonymous

Vista only 'latest'
Doing some work with VMs of Vista Ultimate on my XP box led me to say XP still has a better user experience if only because it does not depart from what was already familiar territory from previous verions. That's 'faint praise', I guess, but with VISTA you get a different UI with no apparent productivity benefits. Be prepared to HUNT for everyday familiar functions. And, the Mac vs PC 'Security' commercial is not far off; 'allow or deny' is getting pretty old pretty fast. It'll take a little while to get comfortable with Mac UI as well, but if you're already infected with thoughts of MS-free living, then switch away, my friend. I predict OS X will be 'best of breed' for forseeable future.

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Jon

I believe the Mac sales will slow down. One of Apple's biggest advertisements is the Mac v. PC, and many PC users are switching over to Apple. However, PC users have been waiting for Vista for some time, if they see Apple delaying their systems, they may decide to just go with a Vista PC instead; don't think that they will be in the mood for another delay for another much-hyped (by Apple, of course) OS. I think Apple should take a cue from Microsoft and offer upgrade coupons for Leopard to keep their sales up. Maclife is right when they say Apple is on a roll! Don't stop the momentum!

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mashall246law

Excellent work. Easy to understand.

Get iphone

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Anonymous

I was at Macworld SF in January and listened as the Mac Broadcasters questioned the lack of any Apple product or Software being immediately available. Well, the talk continues on podcasts, in apple mag editorials and on the morning trains across America. But it's mid April NOW! With nothing new (other than mere Apple talk..wasn't the Apple TV delayed too) for months (other than A TV), Apple has laid an EGG! Lotta talk from SJ and nothing but a stroke job about yet another product delay. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, Shame on you! I was holding out for a new PB and iMac w/ Leopard and Ilife/iWork 07.. Looks like I will wait to 2008 Macworld! And who knows when we will get a real iphone (3G)..The way Aple has handled Apple TV and Leopard (Hot Air + DELAYS), don't bet on the First Gen iPhone doing much but creating Tech Support nightmares.

Well at least they were able to change the name to Apple Inc. w/out DELAYS

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Chuck

It is dissappointing to see that the iPhone continues to have the effect of knee-capping Apple's computer line. It looks like I won't be upgrading my computational power untill the middle of next semester...

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nayrk

I am unable to purchase an iPhone due to money
My current mac hardware I think would choke and die using Lepord (I use a 333MHz Lombard, and a PowerMac G4 400MHz)

So it dosen't really bother me. Be content with what you have.

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Anonymous

I have been holding off on purchasing software I have wanted for my MacBook Pro, eagerly awaiting Leopard's release. I guess now I will either have to wait longer, or just get them now and not jump to Leopard right away.

Macrosoft anyone....

Please no...

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I dont want a Cellphone! I want a Computer!

I am a 13 year old girl and my grandparents promised me a computer for my birthday. I obviously chose a mac, but I decided to wait until Mac OS X Leapord came out.
I didn't mind waiting a month or two, I even suspected I would have to wait untill July, but OCTOBER???????????
I can't wait so long! I'm imature and impatient!
I know Apple probably knows what's best for it, but I know what's best for ME! I just want a computer for my birthday is that so bad? I don't have the extra $$$ to buy the software when it comes out, so I guess I'll just wait, wait, and wait some more.
*sigh*
Anyhoo, I want an iPhone when I'm older and when the aren't so pricey so I understand Apple's motivations.
Impatiently yours, Waiting girl

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Cuntcleaver

babe, you just need to make out a bit in the meanwhile. you could give me a blowjob.

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Chris

I've worked with all sorts of computers since 1980 (that's twice your age) and with Macs every day since 1986. I can understand your impatience, for I've felt the same way often enough. But If I were your father or grandfather, I'd be very glad to let you have a Mac with OS X 10.4.9 NOW rather than with 10.5.0 right out of the cradle. It's superb as it stands, and most of the wrinkles have been ironed out. I have yet to see a first release of any system working flawlessly - in my 27 years of computing, it never happened.
Surely you're entitled to educational discount. Shop around, get enough RAM, and get well acquainted with your Mac. Learning by just doing will never again be as easy or as playful as it is now, at your age, when every day counts. This is worth infinitely more than the price of the upgrade to Leopard - when it will be out and stable.

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Chris

To judge from a swift roundup of comments on the web, 4 out of 5 readers put their gut reactions ahead of reason and logic. Apple has only one throw at both 10.5 and the iPhone, and can't afford to miss. Compare with MS: they can delay Vista for half a decade and still earn zillions - because of sheer bulk. Not so Apple: every new release must be better, more stable and more innovative than the last one. One major lemon, and they're down the drain. They're dashing enough to be prudent. As for those who decry the iPhone: they simply don't grasp that this is the first platform for a new generation of user interfaces running on top of the OS X core. It's just as central to how people will interact with computers as the Mac GUI was in 1984 - if it catches on. It's not a phone, it's a new OS X platform doubling as a phone. It's the OS and the UI, stupid!

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RIk

Well reasoned, well thought-out, and well put. Very good understanding of the role of the underdog -- albeit a multi-million-dollar underdog. Good analysis, my friend.

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nightshrill

Alright, if leopard were delayed because its buggy, then I can understand. But it seems to me that the reason WHY leopard is buggy is for a 500 dollar single service provider and in my book worthless (i'm a college student) iPhone. So you know what **** iPhone, I obviously have no choice but to wait until October for leopard, but until then I might as well keep saving up for a damned iMac.

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Emmett

I'm thinking 10.5's secret features will be revealed at the WWDC. I would buy an iPhone if Cingular serviced where I live, but they don't.

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peabrain

While I know that there are many people waiting for Leopard, and waiting to buy a new Mac until new Macs are shipping with Leopard, there are also a good number of folks who are happy with Tiger 4.9 and who are NOT buying a new Mac and won't buy Leopard until the second iteration.

Hey, now that I don't have to agonize over buying a new Mac for 4-5 months, I can either BUY RIGHT NOW or use some of that saved up money for some discretionary spending.

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Jim Flannery

I have saliva all over my keyboard, waiting for Leopard. How about at least some information on the "secret features" that I've been so horny to see?

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mrreet2001

Fact#1; Most people either can't afford the iphone or want nothing to do with it.
Fact#2; Most Apple users are looking forward to either leopard, ilife or new products based on leopard features.

I think it's completely ridiculous that apple would push something, that most of their computer customers are waiting for, for a product for a small group of people.

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Anonymous

Fact is, there are PLENTY of people interested in the iphone. Just because you're not interested doesn't make it a "fact" that "most people" aren't interested. From where did you get this so-called "fact?" Let me guess: you've been talking to John Dvorak, haven't you?

:-P

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Anonymous

A small group of people? Apple is stupid for delaying a major product for a small group of people?

Small like what? Like Apple users and our less than 8% of the market? So if Adobe delayed the release of CS3 or if some developer delayed a much anticipated product just to serve the needs of the entire (but small) Apple product users that would be insane. Adobe will just put CS3 out for PC users and screw over the Apple graphics people? That doesn't make very much sense coming from Apple folks. Apple has a thing about making everything work with everything seemlessly, that is Apple's creed. They will delay it until it is perfect. If Apple were smart they would have just told you that it was coming and had you holding your arse until it just showed up one day. Not telling anyone when it is coming may be a better solution for Apple since too many so called Mac fans whine about every decision they make that isn't in their own greedy selfish interests. I am glad that some of these guys aren't politicians.... but maybe they are given their attitudes.

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MacGeek Pro

Judging from how the iPhone took nearly the entire time at MacWorld and now this press release, we know how the Mac rates. Dead. Last.

It's a pity, because I would go and buy Leopard, iLife, and iWork immediately upon release, whereas I won't even have the ability to get an iPhone for a few years when I live in a place that AT&T/Cingular services.

Well, that's my rant. Apple won't be getting any more of my money (excluding iTunes music purchases) until October.

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Anonymous

If I am in the market to buy a new mac I could care less if Leopard is delayed or not. I rather have a stable product than a rushed one which will give me headaches from the get go... Pleople need to chill a little. From reading all of the forums its almost sounds like a huge nursery full of crying babies.

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