Apple Waves Goodbye to Xserve After January 31

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etgadsby

I work for a small liberal arts college and the Xserve and Mac OS X Server are important to our work. If you feel similarly please visit:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/bringbackxserve/

Sign the petition if you want to and forward to other interested parties. Thanks!

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mvallance1234

"if you are going to do away with the Xserve than you might as well slap all who supported the Mac in businesses, schools, colleges, and government in the face"

So very true. No matter how many 'consumers' there are bringing Macs and iPads to work or to universities, the mostly pro-Windows (I can made my job look a lot more difficult than it should be!) Admin guys will not support them. In the IT dept. there needs to be a Mac and the Xserve is great as it ensures those Admin guys become familiar with Macs in order to 'support' the users. I have been in Higher Ed for 15 yrs and getting support for my Mac (access to uni network, site licensed software, etc) has been a nightmare. Now I'm in a Mac friendly uni and the Mac Admin guys are fantastic. I don't want to see this guys become assimilated by the pro Windows Admin...so I don't want to see the end of XServe.

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mateozzz

I've actually got one of these at work (snuck it by IT!) and I must say it just works, as compared to the Windows servers which always have one problem or another (cough, registry problems). Just set it up and it goes. It is kind of like a Linux box that doesn't require a Linux geek to run, just a regular geek or even a mere mortal.

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Mac Admin

Apple’s decision to discontinue the Xserve is probably the worst decision Apple made in along time, and it will come back to bite them – hard I hope.

If Apple thinks that the Mac Mini Server can be compared to the Xserve, then they don’t have a clue what the Xserve means to the IT world. First, the Mac Mini doesn’t even come close to the processing power of the Xserve. Not to mention, the RAM in the Mac Mini maxes out at 8 GB whereas the Xserve is 96 GB with 10.6 installed. Then there is the hard drive configuration. Albeit you can mirror two hard drives, that is not the same as RAID 5; you will have to go to some external storage device after you max the internal hard drive out at 500 GB. If you append an external storage device, then you can only concatenate it to the Mini via USB or Firewire; both are considered bad practices for corporate use. There are many other technical disadvantages for the Mac Mini Server when compared to the Xserve when it is used in a corporate environment; however, when it comes to servers of any kind, you don’t want it to shout out “I’m a single point of failure.” The Mac Mini Server says that loud and clear in every aspect of its makeup.

Apple is also saying that the Mac Pro is an alternative to the Xserve. I really do like the Mac Pro. It is a well built and rock-solid computer with many upgradeable components. With more internal drive bays than the Xserve, and you can also add a solid-state drive to it, the Mac Pro has a better internal storage option and a higher storage capacity than the Xserve. Processors in both computers are tit for tat as well. So why not the Mac Pro as an alternative to the Xserve? It is not practical when it comes to mounting it in a rack. With a rack mount kit, you can lay the Mac Pro horizontally and that will use about seven units of rack space. If you left it standing vertically in the rack, you will use about 12U of rack space. Therefore, I hope you have lots of racks because if you have as many servers as I do along with other devices such as a 4U tape library, Xserve RAID (which was another good product Apple did away with), and APC battery backups, you will run out of space fast. The Mac Pro does not have lights out management capabilities. In its current form factor, the Mac Pro can only have one power supply. The absence of LOM and dual power supplies make the Mac Pro inferior to the Xserve. Again, as good as the Mac Pro is, it is not a good corporate solution as an alternative to the Xserve. It does not fit in the server room.

I conclude this by saying to Apple, if you are going to do away with the Xserve than you might as well slap all who supported the Mac in businesses, schools, colleges, and government in the face. Not only are you slapping us in the face, but you are putting a lot of doubt in our minds about Apple’s long term plans for Mac OS X Server software. Give me a good reason why I should continue down Apple’s server road when you are continually discontinuing what I will call your enterprise product line? Right now I can’t trust Apple on whether they will someday discontinue server software or some other product I rely on in business. I really feel as if Apple just called me STUPID for buying their product.

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