Video: Psystar Video of Open Computer

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Video: Psystar Video of Open Computer

Mac clone maker, Psystar, has posted video of three Open Computers running OS X Leopard, Ubuntu and Windows. The video shows the OS X machine running Quake and states that the video was edited with Final Cut Pro on an Open Computer.

 

 

 

Well, at least three of these machine are ready to go. Has anyone received shipment of a Psystar Open Computer? If so, sound off below.

 

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Anonymous

Why would you want to invest $600.00 on this PC looking garbage? Psystar goes on to say that if anything happens to your OSX installation you need to send it back to them and pay them $50.00 to fix it!

I see nothing but trouble, certainly not worth paying them anything for it.

Buy a Mac Mini, get the real deal and the support and the real software which includes the iLife 08 suite. It will run faster, way quieter, and way,way,way, more reliable then this piece of garbage ever could!

And as others have said, Apple's legal team will deal with these guys soon enough. Unless they change there phone number and address for the FOURTH TIME!!!

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OldComputerDude

What about this demonstration is supposed to be convincing? Looks like the kind of video vagueness we see with the scammers who sell those magnetic mileage enhancement devices and magic speaker cables. This has all the classic signs of being a pseudo-startup con.

PsyStar claims on its website to offer six or seven lines of products and services, and to be overwhelmed by orders for these computers. Yet, we hear nothing credible from anyone who has ever received anything from PsyStar, including its several technical support and network consulting services. We see nothing of the 16 employees PsyStar claims to have, most of whom must be somewhere putting all those orders together. Why no video of trucks delivering components and other trucks taking orders out? Why can't we see a computer clearly and unequivocally running OS X instead of a video in which different shots of the same computer seem to show different cabling arrangements at different times? If it were me, I wouldn't show a video with computers. I'd show a video of a shipping manifest. Why doesn't the proud owner of this venture show his face? How is it that this 16 person company can sell and support computers, VOIP phone systems, surveillance systems, networking systems, a SAN array, network consulting, smart-home setup, and an "integrated" audio system?

Why would anyone trust a tech company with a sister site, www.FloridaTek.com, that downloads .exe files when the user clicks any number of links? FloridaTek supposedly does data recovery. Are you going to send your hard drive to a company that downloads mystery files to your computer when you click the "tech support" link on its site?

Even though it's a pain to do, it's no miracle to get OS X to work to some degree on some non-Apple hardware. But why anyone would want to buy one of these things, made from generic components of unknown origin, which is feature-for-feature pricier than a real Mac, is a mystery. Remember, there's no wifi, bluetooth, and any number of other things unless you pay extra. Upgrades and updates require the user to return the hard drive to the company for extra $$$. Don't forget the rather steep shipping costs relative the $0 Apple charges.

I think I'll stick with a real Mac. In four or five years when mine is still reliably running a supported operating system from a company that is not shy about proving its existence, we'll see who came out ahead financially.

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Marcotor

Well, it really isn't that much of a pain to get OSX running on vanilla hardware. I have been following the x86 projects for some time, and was able to build and configure a perfectly capable machine running 10.5.2 which filled that "mythical mid-range desktop Mac" for under $700.

And that was with quality components - Asus (maker of many Apple boards) motherboard, an Intel C2D running @ 2.4 GHz, 4GB Kingston memory, a Raptor HD, Pioneer (again an Apple vendor) DVD-DL, gigabit ethernet, 802.11n wireless, a $5 bluetooth dongle (worked with my keyboard, mouse, a Moto RAZR, etc. without problems) and geForce graphics (the board itself has an Intel GMA950 which also worked well).

Used it every day for several weeks, and nothing I could throw at it, gave it any sort of hiccup. I do not doubt the Quake demo for a second, as I have seen it myself.

I think it's a ringing endorsement of the robustness of OSX. Of course forget about software updates, support (which in 25+ years of buying Apple products I've never had a need for), warranty issues, service, etc.

After a month, and a reload of Windoze, I sent the machine off to do what it was supposed to be doing.

This is NOT a machine you buy for Aunt Delilah. Actually, this is not a machine I would buy or recommend to anyone. I have great doubts concerning Psystar, and what they are doing.

In the end, who cares? A fun little amusement for us, and for Psystar a strenuous exercise in our legal system. It's not like a person is killed every time one of these is sold. Apple Legal will crush these people with DMCA arguments (the hacked EFI loader), and Psystar will be a footnote.

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Anonymous

I don't trust the video showing Leopard and Quake running on the Open Computer. Call me cynical but unless I can see the monitor cable running to the machine that supposedly runs Leopard, I don't trust it. It's far to easy to hook the monitor up to a real make and run those programs, especially given the suspiciously limited camera angle.

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Kendall Tawes

While I'm not encouraging people to break the EULA (Which would be wrong and they are most likely doing so) I don't know if this is just a scam. Early start ups don't often have a lot of money so hiring a voiceover guy might be a bit much. Plus it may have been a more improvised thing to prove that they are a real company. (Hey look we exists see I'm annoying I must be an employee.) Again I don't know anything for sure but I'm not going to pass judgement on this group until something is shipped (or not)...

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Ben

I'm trying to keep an open mind like you because Apple isn't the same as it used to be: just two years ago, it would have been blasphemous to run Windows on your Intel Mac, let alone the end of the world if Apple actually supported it... look where we're at now.

I just hope that if there really are clones, this doesn't end up hurting Apple like it did in the mid-90's.

And by the way, I still think it's funny that they include a few pictures of their 'headquarters' in their video. The whole video is sort of reminiscent of a propaganda effort.

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Ben

They seem to show a lot of shots of their 'headquarters' in the movie... :]

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Imagine Engine

While it may lower the purchase price to by a Mac Clone the reality is the overall price goes up when one considers support cost. I doubt Psystar will provide technical support for their systems when something goes wrong and Apple definitely won't help you since installing OS X on anything but an Apple certified computer is against their EULA. Take it from a former Windows user, turned Linux user who eventually made the switch to OS X and that is simply buy a Mac from Apple. It's less costly to service and the customer service is there for you when you need it. While the upfront cost is slightly higher with a Mac the reality is you're getting a well designed product that is not only functional and thoroughly tested but also aesthetically pleasing.

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b_dubb

umm ... are these guys for real? and could they have paid for real voiceover talent? dude's annoying.

looks pretty sketchy.

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