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I see nothing wrong with suicide ; my final sentence is meant to be:
"If you actually believe that your efforts will actually make life better for you (highly debatable) then you are less likely to commit suicide. I believe that this and the built-in objection to your own death are the [biggest] barriers to suicide."

I do believe that if you father/mother a child or deliberately establish a relationship with someone then you have some responsibility.

Pariah wrote:

I am always distressed by the lack of compassion for those who get stuck in that horrible, dead end suicide place.
Yes, it is wrong, and yes there are better answers but who of us can claim never being in a bad place like that?
Some of the comments I have read here just reek of arrogance, like the writer never suffered human flaws.

You're probably referring to me, so I'll respond.

I'm full of flaws, both small small and large.

When it comes to compassion, though, no breaks for suicide and self-inflicted damage of any king. At all. Ever.

-Tim

Last edited by yelowpunk (2005-09-03 1:08 pm)

yelowpunk wrote:

Pariah wrote:

I am always distressed by the lack of compassion for those who get stuck in that horrible, dead end suicide place.
Yes, it is wrong, and yes there are better answers but who of us can claim never being in a bad place like that?
Some of the comments I have read here just reek of arrogance, like the writer never suffered human flaws.

You're probably referring to me, so I'll respond.

I'm full of flaws, both small small and large.

When it comes to compassion, though, no breaks for suicide and self-inflicted damage of any king. At all. Ever.

-Tim

Nice heartlessness
I reject your concept

Last edited by Pariah (2005-09-03 2:02 pm)

Wow, suicide is terrible.  Teen suicide is completely crazy, and I think it comes from teens trying to play adult games with BF's and GFs and whatever, and they think they go through a tragedy, when they don't know tragedy.

My dad went through a lot in his life that he didn't want to talk about.  Particarly war, a desperate war, unlike that with U.S. marines.  He never told me what he saw, but I can imagine him seeing his life long friends be mutilated in front of him.  I think that largely contributed to his suicide.  I'm not too sure exactly how it went after that, a lot of this is guesswork.  Anyway, he worked as an electrical engineer, a very stressful job, and he just coudlnt' deal with stress, so he got some minor back pain, and that later escalated into a drug addiction.  My Dad's family has a history of drug problems.

Anyway, this was going on for quite a few years, then at one point he got anti-depressants.  For the first time in a long time did my dad feel no back pain.  It was very good, but then the doctor refused to sign his disability papers, and my dad quickly abondoned the doctor, and went back to traditional addicting pain killers.  So, this was going on for a few years.  Then, before his suicide, he went into this crazy state, where he couldn't sleep.  This could have been an overdose, and we substituted it as an overdose, but what I later think is that he had gotton anti-depressants, even though he said he didn't.  What I actually believe is that he took the anti-depressants and was just overwhelmed by this sudden flood of information which was previously hidden by the drugs, and I think after realizing what a smurfy state he was in, he pulled a gun, and killed himself.

I'm sorry my wording is really bad, but I have this cold which like puts me in a very smurfy state, and I cannot really think that clearly...