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#1 2003-02-11 12:18 pm

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General World Political Chaos

The UN Security Council is voting 3-2 against Bush's war.  Now, I don't think France really is indicitive of anything, but why dismiss China and Russia's vote?

On a side note, I just read that France and Germany and Belgium don't want NATO to defend Turkey in the event of a US war on Iraq.  Don't that just suck? 

This sabre-rattling that Bush is doing in the Persian Gulf is not only having little affect on Iraq, but it's tearing at the fibers that bind the UN, and NATO.  And, it's certainl causing its share of rifts right here in ze h

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#2 2003-02-11 12:23 pm

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Let's not leave out all of Clinton's military adventures now.


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#3 2003-02-11 12:25 pm

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Let's not leave out all of Clinton's military adventures now.

Or lack thereof.   Meh.  Bush is the one rattling the saber now, if he could do better than whatever it is that you are accusing slick Willie of, then I suppose the world would be more in agreement now, wouldn't they?

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#4 2003-02-11 12:26 pm

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I don't expect World War III to happen anytime soon, though I suppose terrorist threats could continue to grow.

The chief danger of all this Iraq nonsense, in my view, is the dissention between the US and its allies could have major reprucussions internationally. For the past 50 or 60 years, the West has generally spoken with one voice. If that united front dissolves, you could have international chaos.

Militarily, some countries could feel allowed to attack their neighbors (the India-Pakistan dispute is a particular worry here, not to mention China-Taiwan and the two Koreas). But it could also fracture international organizations like the UN and the WTO.

A major international split could set the world back decades, to the bad old Darwinian dog-eat-dog age of endlessly squabbling nations. That's my #1 fear.


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#5 2003-02-11 1:00 pm

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Let's not leave out all of Clinton's military adventures now.

Ah, The Call of the Sheep.

What the hell do Clinton's military "adventures" have to do with what Bush is doing now?  For all the fact that conservative sheep say Clinton is irrelevent and old news, you guys sure do bleat about him a lot.


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#6 2003-02-11 1:07 pm

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As the leftist sheep continue to bleat about Bush.


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#7 2003-02-11 1:10 pm

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As the leftist sheep continue to bleat about Bush.

Yes, because we all know how much of a screaming leftist r_u is.  You remember him, he started the thread?

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#8 2003-02-11 1:16 pm

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As the leftist sheep continue to bleat about Bush.

My thoughts are as Northwind stated.  Bleating about Bush is relevant as he is the one to put us into an unwanted war.  Clinton is old news, albeit I miss his sophomoric sexual antics.  But I guess the political blame game continues while Bush plays his game of Risk.


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#9 2003-02-11 1:35 pm

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We've already been fighting a war with the EU in the WTO. I've suspected that is one of the reasons for France's attitudes among others. The current problems with the EU are much bigger than a war in Iraq. It's just bringing things to a head. That is not necessarily a bad thing either.


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#10 2003-02-11 9:18 pm

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I thought for sure that someone would have tried to defend Bush's actions.  Oh well.

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#11 2003-02-11 10:13 pm

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conservative sheep say Clinton is irrelevent and old news, you guys sure do bleat about him a lot.

clinton is old news, but since he's so good at helping Republicans win elections, I like having him around. Hell, betwixt bill and his husband hillary, damn near half of congress is Republican.


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#12 2003-02-11 11:28 pm

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I thought for sure that someone would have tried to defend Bush's actions.  Oh well.

Even Bush's most mindless cheerleaders are starting to realize that his actions are indefensible.  With the exception, perhaps, of a few truly inveterate sheep hanging around here.


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#13 2003-02-11 11:36 pm

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I thought for sure that someone would have tried to defend Bush's actions.  Oh well.

Even Bush's most mindless cheerleaders are starting to realize that his actions are indefensible.  With the exception, perhaps, of a few truly inveterate sheep hanging around here.

hehehe

Edit: I originally thought that said invertebrate sheep... which made me chuckle...

Well they are pretty spineless...


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#14 2003-02-13 8:53 pm

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Re: General World Political Chaos

The UN Security Council is voting 3-2 against Bush's war.  Now, I don't think France really is indicitive of anything, but why dismiss China and Russia's vote?

On a side note, I just read that France and Germany and Belgium don't want NATO to defend Turkey in the event of a US war on Iraq.  Don't that just suck? 

This sabre-rattling that Bush is doing in the Persian Gulf is not only having little affect on Iraq, but it's tearing at the fibers that bind the UN, and NATO.  And, it's certainl causing its share of rifts right here in ze h

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#15 2003-02-13 10:29 pm

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Bush is crazy.  my socialist brethren are gaining in the EU and we will rise and bring the arrogant USA to its knees, ushering in an era of true socialist paradise.  the rich will have to give up their McMansions and share their palaces with the victims of the capitalists

The 20th Century called, they want their delusions back.


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#16 2003-02-13 10:36 pm

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Between the "invertebrate sheep" and the one-liner about the 20th century, I had a really fun time reading this thread.  smile

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