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#1 2003-02-06 11:55 pm

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Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

For the past decade or so NASA has been struggling to found a good reason to send astronauts into space.   I was really optimistic about the launch of the international space station, but now I don't know if sending people up to space is all that necessary.  the more important scientific,


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#2 2003-02-07 1:08 am

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Re: Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

I agree.  Unmanned exploration is the best option right now.  It doesn't make sense to keep sending people into space with this technology.  I say: wait 10-30 years, all the while developing advanced next-generation propulsion systems.  Then, decide on one.

Nobody cares about the shuttle anyway now.  Look where the interest is beginning to shift: to things like deep space exploration.

Here's what I say for budget allocation:

30% - Unmanned missions

60% - Advanced theoretical propulsion systems.

10% - Other stuff like SETI, etc.

No, we don't need to build a huge rocket and send someone to Mars.
I also think the budget should be increased because there is great promise in some areas of propulsion.

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#3 2003-02-07 3:55 am

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Re: Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

Umm...you guys do know that the Hubble is maintained by astronauts in space, right?

Orbiting objects like the Hubble need to get periodic boosts from the shuttle to maintain a higher orbit. (else the fall into the ocean somewhere).

Right now all of space exploration is being done unmanned. But humans are doing experiments in space and maintaining our assets that are in orbit.

Yes, we need to examine our manned space missions and make them safer, but we shouldn't give up on them entirely.


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#4 2003-02-07 4:03 am

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Re: Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

What i'm interested in is when we will see someone walk on the moon :?:

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#5 2003-02-07 7:38 am

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Re: Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

What i'm interested in is when we will see someone walk on the moon :?:

Do you mean when will we see someone walk on the moon again? Or when will we see someone walk on the moon for real this time?

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#6 2003-02-07 7:49 am

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Tell me you dont' actually believe that the moonwalks were fake.  I gave you people more credit than that.  Please tell me you were joking!! blush


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#7 2003-02-07 10:03 am

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Re: Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

For the past decade or so NASA has been struggling to found a good reason to send astronauts into space.   I was really optimistic about the launch of the international space station, but now I don't know if sending people up to space is all that necessary.  the more important scientific, ?exciting? and highly publized space missions and discoveries has been accomplished by ?unmanned? robots like the Hubbell Telescope and the Mars explore.  The Hubbell has given us more insight and discovery into the univers than any ?manned? missions in space.  We can send some robots to Mars, but no amount of space shuttle launchs has given us any new technology to send anyone there anytime soon.  Even now they are working on a better Hubblee and Mars explorer.  I believe we will explore the solar system. Let's do more robotic preperations until we find a easier and safer way to do it.

Humans can do a much better job of repairing satellites than robots can.  And I've yet to see a spacecraft with a good self-repair program.

Both manned and unmanned space missions are valid.


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#8 2003-02-07 9:01 pm

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Re: Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

The best reason for a manned program is that it pushes the limits of the technology and forces creative solutions. Look at all the technology that was developed for the Apollo missions! And the real world benefit is that it eventually trickles down into everyday life! I have to think that the real mission is to boldly go, not toss a toy in to the sky.


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#9 2003-02-07 11:10 pm

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Re: Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

A vast storehouse of knowledge has been gained by "tossing toys into the sky". Think Mariner, Pioneer, Viking, Voyager, Galileo, Cassini, Hubble, Chandra ....

Frankly, in terms of raw scientific data, I don't think manned exploration can hold a candle to what's been received from those "toys" -- which, by the way, have also pushed technology, and at a far lower price, in dollars and human life.


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#10 2003-02-07 11:17 pm

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Re: Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

Tell me you dont' actually believe that the moonwalks were fake.  I gave you people more credit than that.  Please tell me you were joking!! blush

Everybody knows the moonwalks were faked. Everybody.

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#11 2003-02-07 11:23 pm

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Re: Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

Buzz Aldrin will punch you if you say that to his face.


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#12 2003-02-07 11:50 pm

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Buzz Aldrin will punch you if you say that to his face.

That old coot. He ain't got nothin'. Bring him on.

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#13 2003-02-08 2:04 am

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Re: Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

Buzz Aldrin will punch you if you say that to his face.

That old coot. He ain't got nothin'. Bring him on.

lol  smile


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#14 2003-02-08 1:43 pm

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It's up to you, after all, they're your tax dollars. But I'd love to see a man on Mars in my lifetime.

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#15 2003-02-13 12:00 am

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No satellites ever needed any manual repairs.  The Hubbell would have had only one upgrade if they didnt mess up in the first place.  We really need a giant leap in physics  or quantum physics to make a improve on the incremantal advance in space technology, space flights.


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#16 2003-02-13 10:15 am

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Re: Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

I got a really incredible idea. How about we let private companies do the space flying and let NASA do research?!? Wow, then we'll get, I don't know, A PROFIT from space!!!

I mean, one Earth crossing asteroid $16 TRILLION worth of iron ore in it. Bringing back just 10 tons of helium-3 from neptune would provide enough fusionable material to power North America for 30 MONTHS. USING TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY!!!

The small-mindedness of modern society is so depressing.


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#17 2003-02-13 11:03 am

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Re: Manned vs. Unmanned Space Missions

I got a really incredible idea. How about we let private companies do the space flying and let NASA do research?!? Wow, then we'll get, I don't know, A PROFIT from space!!!

I mean, one Earth crossing asteroid $16 TRILLION worth of iron ore in it. Bringing back just 10 tons of helium-3 from neptune would provide enough fusionable material to power North America for 30 MONTHS. USING TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY!!!

The small-mindedness of modern society is so depressing.

Whew!!

I was wondering if I was the only one thinking that! Although, IMHO, NASA should be scrapped entirely. It is an inefficient waste of time, money and resources. Private enterprise could do everything NASA could do and more, probably ten times cheaper.

In fact, I'd like someone to give me one good reason to keep NASA alive.


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#18 2003-02-13 11:07 am

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Well, they've got a spiffy logo.


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#19 2003-02-13 1:12 pm

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Tell me you dont' actually believe that the moonwalks were fake.  I gave you people more credit than that.  Please tell me you were joking!! blush

Everybody knows the moonwalks were faked. Everybody.

You know, you just lost all credibility with me...

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