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#1 2003-02-13 9:16 pm

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Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s … a/iraq_574

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#2 2003-02-13 9:19 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

So we should Intentionaly targt people standing up for what they believe in?


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#3 2003-02-13 9:19 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

I don't think much of this whole war thing, but these people are simply smurfed in the head.

It's a shame, too, because that blonde on the right is semi-attractive.


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#4 2003-02-13 9:23 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

Sounds good. How about we drop those in favor of war off in the desert outside Bahgdad?

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#5 2003-02-13 9:25 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

So we should Intentionaly targt people standing up for what they believe in?

YES.  The Hitler youth were people standing up for what they believed in.
They're there, protecting Saddam.  It doesn't matter what they say they're there for, the end result, if they're successful, is the preservation of Saddam.


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#6 2003-02-13 9:26 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

It looks like the caption to that pic should be, "what's this word?"

Heh, these people, sadly, are goners.  Bush doesn't care that his approval rating is plummeting, he doesn't care about UN resolutions and international law, so why would he care about 14 foreign hippies?  Or even the double-decker bus load on its way?

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#7 2003-02-13 9:28 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

hillbilly said:

YES. The Hitler youth were people standing up for what they believed in.

How about the Boy Scouts of America?
Or the Gay and Lesbian Alliance?
Or maybe the Cristian Coalition?

Or any other groups that people dislike and who strongly believe in their values?


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#8 2003-02-13 9:28 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

So we should Intentionaly targt people standing up for what they believe in?

Logical fallacy.  He never intimated they should be intentionally targetted.  Watch as these nutballs head over there and then become surprised when some of them get killed.


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#9 2003-02-13 9:29 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...


How about the Boy Scouts of America?
Or the Gay and Lesbian Alliance?
Or maybe the Cristian Coalition?

They're not going to an enemy nation, wearing big-assed targets supporting a dictator.


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#10 2003-02-13 9:29 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

It looks like the caption to that pic should be, "what's this word?"

Heh, these people, sadly, are goners.  Bush doesn't care that his approval rating is plummeting, he doesn't care about UN resolutions and international law, so why would he care about 14 foreign hippies?  Or even the double-decker bus load on its way?

Why should Bush care about UN resolutions when the UN doesn't care about UN resolutions?


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#11 2003-02-13 9:31 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

Macul said:

Logical fallacy. He never intimated they should be intentionally targetted

Just look at the title...

hillbilly said:

They're not going to an enemy nation, wearing big-assed targets supporting a dictator.

Neither Did the Hitler Youth, they were just a Scout-esqe orginization started by Hitler.


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#12 2003-02-13 9:33 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

They're not going to an enemy nation, wearing big-assed targets supporting a dictator.

Neither Did the Hitler Youth, they were just a Scout-esqe orginization started by Hitler.

The Hitler Youth fought on the battlefields of northern France.


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#13 2003-02-13 9:35 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

It looks like the caption to that pic should be, "what's this word?"

Heh, these people, sadly, are goners.  Bush doesn't care that his approval rating is plummeting, he doesn't care about UN resolutions and international law, so why would he care about 14 foreign hippies?  Or even the double-decker bus load on its way?

Why should Bush care about UN resolutions when the UN doesn't care about UN resolutions?

Exactly my point.

side note:  what's with all the "logical fallacy" talk recently? smile

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#14 2003-02-13 9:35 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

Macul said:

Logical fallacy. He never intimated they should be intentionally targetted

Just look at the title...

hillbilly said:

They're not going to an enemy nation, wearing big-assed targets supporting a dictator.

Neither Did the Hitler Youth, they were just a Scout-esqe orginization started by Hitler.

Well, hell.  I agree with him then.  If these people want to ally themselves with Hussein then don't let me stand in the way.  Perhaps they'll get together and sing "We are the World" and hand out flowers to everyone as they pass by.


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#15 2003-02-13 9:36 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

hillbilly said:

The Hitler Youth fought on the battlefields of northern France.

People tend to fight for their own nations...


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#16 2003-02-13 9:37 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

hillbilly said:

The Hitler Youth fought on the battlefields of northern France.

People tend to fight for their own nations...

So, now you're saying the Hitler Youth had no devotion to Hitler?  They had no personal convictions w/regards to Hitler?  It was all for their country?  roll  lol  roll


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#17 2003-02-13 9:38 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

So we should Intentionaly targt people standing up for what they believe in?

Logical fallacy.  He never intimated they should be intentionally targetted.

That is odd, because with the subject entitled Time to start bombing....and here's the first target... it's a bit difficult to presume anything but.


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#18 2003-02-13 9:40 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

So we should Intentionaly targt people standing up for what they believe in?

Logical fallacy.  He never intimated they should be intentionally targetted.

That is odd, because with the subject entitled Time to start bombing....and here's the first target... it's a bit difficult to presume anything but.

I was going by the context of his post.


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#19 2003-02-13 9:42 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

So we should Intentionaly targt people standing up for what they believe in?

Logical fallacy.  He never intimated they should be intentionally targetted.

That is odd, because with the subject entitled Time to start bombing....and here's the first target... it's a bit difficult to presume anything but.

I was going by the context of his post.

I should have added that we should make sure to start with cluster bombs to be thorough.


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#20 2003-02-13 9:42 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

If these people want to ally themselves with Hussein then don't let me stand in the way.

Why do you believe these people want to ally themselves with Hussein?


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#21 2003-02-13 9:45 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

I should have added that we should make sure to start with cluster bombs to be thorough.

Aren't you the one that suggested helping North Korea in attacking Berkeley California with nuclear weapons?


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#22 2003-02-13 9:45 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

If these people want to ally themselves with Hussein then don't let me stand in the way.

Why do you believe these people want to ally themselves with Hussein?

They're taking an action that by its design, if successful, will help ensure the continued rule of Saddam.


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#23 2003-02-13 9:47 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

They're taking an action that by its design, if successful, will help ensure the continued rule of Saddam.

I do not agree. In fact I'd say that's a "Logical fallacy."


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#24 2003-02-13 9:49 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

They're taking an action that by its design, if successful, will help ensure the continued rule of Saddam.

I do not agree. In fact I'd say that's a "Logical fallacy."

If they succeed, there is no war.  If there is no war, Saddam stays in power.  Whether they like it or not, their actions, if successful, would lead to the preservation of Saddam.


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#25 2003-02-13 9:52 pm

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Re: Time to start bombing....and here's the first target...

If they succeed, there is no war.

Correct.

If there is no war, Saddam stays in power.

Incorrect.


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