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clever.

Surely, we should do the same to Germany, seeing as they had the most companies supplying Saddam with most dual-use technology that helped their nuclear and chemical weapons programs.

So because they have something we want, and are trying to keep it, we should punish them?

Hmmm...

we don't need the oil.....assuming oil is what you're getting at.

Europe depends more on middle-eastern oil than we do.

Hillbilly said

we don't need the oil.....assuming oil is what you're getting at.

Then why are there proposals to drill all over the Alaskan wilderness?
And if we didn't need the oil why do we use forign oil in the first place?

we don't need to steal the oil because we **gasp:idea:** already buy some of it from them.

hillbilly wrote:

we don't need to steal the oil because we **gasp:idea:** already buy some of it from them.

Then why do you support us stealing it from people who buy it themselves, who, as you claim, depend on it more then us?

Who's advocating stealing?

Proposal: France has to abide by the suspension of all oil for food trade for ten years (and the suspension of all Iraqi oil trade--total blockade). The U.S. (and a coalition of the willing) will provide Iraq all the food it could consume and every other non-threatening amenity (including tvs) the Iraq could desire. In return for this, the U.S. allows -massive, at least 10,000 inspectors- U.N. inspections for 10 years.

andy panda wrote:

Proposal: France has to abide by the suspension of all oil for food trade for ten years (and the suspension of all Iraqi oil trade--total blockade). The U.S. (and a coalition of the willing) will provide Iraq all the food it could consume and every other non-threatening amenity (including tvs) the Iraq could desire. In return for this, the U.S. allows -massive, at least 10,000 inspectors- U.N. inspections for 10 years.

So taking something that France is already doing, but not us, prevent them from doing it for a few years, while we do it ourselves, is not staling?

Ok, then fine, it is a classic case of 2nd grade bullying.

andy panda wrote:

Proposal: France has to abide by the suspension of all oil for food trade for ten years (and the suspension of all Iraqi oil trade--total blockade). The U.S. (and a coalition of the willing) will provide Iraq all the food it could consume and every other non-threatening amenity (including tvs) the Iraq could desire. In return for this, the U.S. allows -massive, at least 10,000 inspectors- U.N. inspections for 10 years.

So taking something that France is already doing, but not us, prevent them from doing it for a few years, while we do it ourselves, is not staling?

Ok, then fine, it is a classic case of 2nd grade bullying.

andy panda didn't propose theft of any kind.

andy panda wrote:

Cyril, do I miss something, or have you completely forgotten that the current French diplomacy is at heart as bad and petty as my proposal is

Yeah I am aware that your article is satire, and I must admit quite funny, but it seems Hillbilly here is taking it seriously.

easy.  The US just stops imports from France and flood the French market with cheap, government subsidized American goods.  That's the easiest way to get rid of international problems.  Hit them in the pocketbook.

Yeah, but Americas intentions are not so noble either.

I just guess the needy can only get help when there are vital rescources at stake, and even then it may not improve their situation.