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For once I completely agree with Shnicky Shnack. Mark this down as an epochal one-time event; it will probably never happen again.

Parent's fault, absolutely.

I'm happy there are games like GTA3.  I t taught me that I can have sex with a hooker and when I'm done, kill her and get my money back.

good to know such a bunch of psychos have gotten hold of assault rifles, shot guns and handguns with such ease

god bless the 2nd amendment

You are dumbing down the discussion, folks, with this myopic parents crap.

I already refuted this point of view. Parents are only one factor in the socialization of youth. In fact, studies have said children are more influenced by their peers than by their parents.

All you have proven is that you have to go back 60 yrs to find an example of Mass brainwashing...

Get off the "Natzi did" trail, and find another reason why, because the tactics that the Nazis uses were not used in this game, so technically the rebuttals you have created are irrelevant.

Cyberpawz

All you have proven is that you have to go back 60 yrs to find an example of Mass brainwashing...

Human nature has not changed in 60 years. Your protest is red herring.

Get off the "Natzi did" trail, and find another reason why, because the tactics that the Nazis uses were not used in this game, so technically the rebuttals you have created are irrelevant.

My rebuttal to the parents thing contained more examples than the Nazi one. But, that example is very important, anyway.

The Sims taught me to flush the toilet after taking a dump.

If I had a trip for two to Hawaii, I'd award it to XYZ for the most random and meaningless Nazi reference ever.

Where the hell were the parents?

When the German soldiers came and asked for help rounding up and murdering local Jews, many parents helped them.

Many Nazis were parents.

Where the hell were the parents? when we had the gladiatorial games, where crowds delighted in vicious bloodshed? I suppose none of the spectators were parents?

Where the hell were the parents?

Busy gathering as a community to smile for the camera at local lynchings. Yes, the photos exist. They even brought their kids. Perhaps they felt it was a new type of American holiday?

wait, what?

Just to be nitpicky, because it's that kind of day, but how can you hold the government free of responsibility because the 2nd amendment didn't allow the kids weapons, while saying that it was the fault of other laws (that "extended" the 2nd amendment)? Some governmenet passed these "extensions" too, you know...

Easy, the "kids" followed the law to get the guns, by all intended purposes they had every right to own a gun... they went though the background checks etc...the law didn't fail, nor did the government. The parents did, by not knowing what their "kids" were doing...

If you want, I'm sure we can give more freedoms away and let the government watch kids as the grow up when the parents can't.

If parents are too busy working, they should never of had kids to begin with.

Cyberpawz

I was attacked by a video game. I don't want to talk about.

You too?  guess what though... I fought back   blew it's head right off

You're lucky whereas I'm scarred (anabit scared) for life. [ten gallon] [/ten gallon]

I was attacked by a video game. I don't want to talk about.

You too?  guess what though... I fought back   blew it's head right off

You're lucky whereas I'm scarred (anabit scared) for life. [10 gallon] [/10 gallon]

Ummm...

Cyberpawz

Poor Neutron, unable to comprehend simple analogies.




wait, what?

I demonstrated, via good examples, that the idea that parents are not necessarily the omnipotent omnipresent moral guides that many posters here think they are. (This is all repetition, since some obviously can't comprehend things unless they're repeated several times. Pay attention.)

In those examples, parents clearly acted amorally. Not only are some parents capable of acting amorally and allowing such action to socialize their children, entire societies can be dominated by amoral behavior. The question, then, where are the parents? is quite ironic.

How can anyone fail to grasp the fact that when parents are capable of gathering with children to watch a "town" lynching that we can't rely solely on the idea of parents as being the moral authority which will socialize children to the degree in which they will be healthy and moral?

As I already said, the question boils down to government management of behavior vs. private management of behavior. I have demonstrated that sometimes the government needs to take over. A good example, which I already provided, is that lynching behavior. Further, it required governments, not parents, to stop the Nazis and the Taliban.

I could go on repeating myself, but I shall not. Continue to spin this discussion in circles if you wish.