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#326 2005-10-05 7:45 pm

ConnertheCat
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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

NAG wrote:

Anyone have enough mana to summon him back?

Can this thread die yet?


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#327 2005-10-05 10:48 pm

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

Apparently not.


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#328 2005-10-06 1:03 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

What's KoToR?


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#329 2005-10-06 1:06 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

elpato84 wrote:

What's KoToR?

There is hope for the future.


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#330 2005-10-06 1:15 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

Phydeaux wrote:

elpato84 wrote:

What's KoToR?

There is hope for the future.

Naw, can't be. That's TiHftF. I've heard of that one.


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#331 2005-10-06 2:17 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

woodgie wrote:

10.4.2 and still no luck. I'm destined to be stuck on Dan-bloody-too-bloody-ine for the rest of my natural life!

Am I missing something or does it run on SOME hardware runing later than Mac OS X 10.3.7? If so, what?

So help me, if anyone answers "Yes, a P.C." or "Yes, a Console" to the last question I'll... I'll... big_smile

Will this ever get sorted out? Thirty three pounds and ninety five of my hard earned pence wasted on an 11p drinks coaster...

Depending on your video card (basically above a 9200 or a NVIDIA card), putting
Disable Vertex Buffer Objects=1
in your config file should fix it. It did for me.


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#332 2005-10-06 4:38 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

akb825 wrote:

Depending on your video card (basically above a 9200 or a NVIDIA card), putting
Disable Vertex Buffer Objects=1
in your config file should fix it. It did for me.

OOOOHHH!

/runs off to find the nearest text editor...


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#333 2005-10-06 4:42 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

NAG wrote:

Apparently not.

'sides, it helps keep Brad humble. cool

Apple's OGL engineers'll get this sorted. Eventually.


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#334 2005-10-06 4:53 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

woodgie wrote:

akb825 wrote:

Depending on your video card (basically above a 9200 or a NVIDIA card), putting
Disable Vertex Buffer Objects=1
in your config file should fix it. It did for me.

OOOOHHH!

/runs off to find the nearest text editor...

Well I never! Playable Matale Grounds! Thank you very very much.

I'll have to 'test' this fix far more thoroughly, but not now. Right now I have CCNA revision to do. Which sucks.


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#335 2005-11-29 5:34 pm

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

Anyone know if 10.4.3 fixed this at all?


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#336 2005-11-29 7:56 pm

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

No.


You have an absolutely breath-taking... heiney. I mean, that thing's good. I wanna be friends with it.

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#337 2005-11-29 9:23 pm

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

yeah, i still can't play the matale grounds even though i just got a 9800 pro 256mb.  I lowered the quality and got no change.  That's just weird.  I'm just waiting for Aspyr.  But in the mean time, I've gone back to halo for a while.  I may move on to elite fore when that is over.  or maybe UT.  I never completed the matale/sandral mission successfully.  On my first try the two had to run away together and live in the enclave.  Then things got worse and I got to frustrated to try again so I just moved on.

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#338 2005-11-29 10:02 pm

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

I like goading them all into killing eachother. Good times.

Oh, and just turn off the texture buffers or whatever the hell was discussed ffor the last 14 pages, and the game runs smooth as butter.


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#339 2005-11-29 10:17 pm

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

14 pages?  Gluupor no understands.

and the only time i recall you can make them kill eachother is towards the end when you come out of the temple with bastila and everyone realizes you have gone dark.

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#340 2005-11-29 10:22 pm

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

w/e, i hear you.  i need to find the .ini file tho, i misplaced it or something

but seriously, how can you make them kill eachother?

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#341 2005-11-29 10:48 pm

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

I was talking about the sandrals/matales.

And you can also make zaalbar kill mission.


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#342 2005-11-29 10:57 pm

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

oh. 

i knew about the zaalbar/mission thing.

also, you kill jolee and juhani in the temple

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#343 2005-11-29 11:56 pm

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

This thread just refuses to die.


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#344 2005-11-30 12:04 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

DIE smurfing KOTOR WORST PORT EVERY smurfing THREAD FROM smurfing HELL.


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#345 2005-11-30 5:50 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

by saying that, you have just increased its life expectancy

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#346 2005-12-05 4:41 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

OK, I just have to say this!

I have a dual 1.8 Ghz G4, 1.5 GB RAM, OS 10.4.3, and a 256 MB Radeon 9800 Pro.  (I saw some people mention that the Radeon 9800 shouldn't have any problems....  HA!)

For the first level I had everything turned on (all those nifty graphics options) at a resolution of 1024 x 768 and everything ran nice and SMOOTH.  Then I get to the second level and everything runs the same until I get into the fields of Dantooine and suddenly the game runs so slow it is no longer playable.  (The characters will not respond to commands and just sit there, frozen.)  I tried turning everything off and lowering the resolution but it still didn't help.  It's a real shame too, I was kind of enjoying this game.  I don't know what they did with the second level, but whatever it was it screws the game up beyond all recognition!  mad  mad  mad  Oh, I'm also playing the latest patch, 1.03b.

THERE!  I feel marginally better after saying that. 

Though I would like to take a lightsaber to a few programmers right now...  Ahem...  wink

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#347 2005-12-05 5:02 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

Hmm...  It seems the latest patch is 1.03c!  I just updated hoping that I could come back here and apologize to the poor programmers.  (Mental note: don't trust Version Tracker all the time for accurate info.)

However...  THE PROBLEM PERSISTS even with the newer 1.03c patch.  So:  PHOOEY ON THE WHOLE BLASTED THING!!!!  mad

Hmm...  I don't really feel THAT much better after saying that.  I can't believe I actually bought a game that doesn't work!  mad  Moreover, I am particularly perturbed that I started to like a game and then it QUIT WORKING!!!

Ah well, I guess I learned my lesson!  When one wishes to play a game, one should go to rather loathsome Windows OS.  What a wacky world this is!  wink

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#348 2005-12-05 6:51 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

Where people don't read thru the threads that answer, explain and provide workarounds for their problems and instead just vent? smile


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#349 2005-12-05 9:21 am

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

Maybe you should look up.

I wrote:

Depending on your video card (basically above a 9200 or a NVIDIA card), putting
Disable Vertex Buffer Objects=1
in your config file should fix it. It did for me.

The main problem is a change how VBOs work in later versions of OS X to optimize DOOM III. Unfortunately, the way KotOR uses VBOs is now the inefficient way according to this new way. The PC also had the same problem for a while, but it was fixed rather recently.

I'm kind of curious if I run into the same problem, since I'm making a 3D graphics engine in OpenGL that uses VBOs. Hopefully not, though, since in here it only does so in one part of the game when VBOs are used throughout.

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#350 2005-12-05 2:23 pm

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Re: KOTOR worst port job ever?

Bat wrote:

Where people don't read thru the threads that answer, explain and provide workarounds for their problems and instead just vent? smile

Venting is more fun.  wink  Especially when the other prospect is reading through an insanely large thread.  Well it's not THAT big but still!   With no mention of this little issue on the game's official website I could very well find new reasons to vent today!  big_smile

I did the "good" thing (or the "stupid" depending on your point of view) and found the Disable Vertex Buffer Objects hack!  Now, instead of the characters freezing, the game just crashes.  Lovely.  tongue

PS:  The smilies here disturb me...  eek

big_smile

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