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#1076 2005-12-06 7:03 am

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

NSFW:  http://www. are you kidding me? - oats .com/news/story/sm_1637389.html

A German church group has caused controversy by releasing a calendar using nude models to portray bible scenes.  http://homepage.mac.com/oatmeal/MAF/maxes/maxine.gif

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#1077 2005-12-06 10:44 am

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Dude, you can't post stuff like that.  You know that.

8) No porn whatsoever.
- Chances are if it's nude, it's not acceptable. (Most Muppets don't count.)
-  If you post a link that you have the slightest doubt about being acceptable, post "NSFW" with it.  It might be the saving grace that lets it stay.

Yeah, you noted it with NSFW, but it's freaking full frontal nudity.  No, man.  No.

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#1078 2005-12-06 12:39 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

i dont see what nude cale3ndars has to do with the evolution vs stupidity debate anyway.


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#1079 2005-12-06 1:06 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Pro_ wrote:

i dont see what nude cale3ndars has to do with the evolution vs stupidity debate anyway.

The first episode recreated was Adam and Eve.   shrug

(great pun omitted) tongue

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#1080 2005-12-06 1:21 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Tetrachloride wrote:

NSFW:  http://www. are you kidding me? - oats .com/news/story/sm_1637389.html

A German church group has caused controversy by releasing a calendar using nude models to portray bible scenes.

Note to self: ananova is not work safe. Interesting.


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#1081 2005-12-06 1:27 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

I'm just glad to see parts of the Old Testament associated with porn and banned.  Mission accomplished for the hour.

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#1082 2005-12-06 1:33 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

jerwin wrote:

Tetrachloride wrote:

NSFW:  http://www. are you kidding me? - oats .com/news/story/sm_1637389.html

A German church group has caused controversy by releasing a calendar using nude models to portray bible scenes.

Note to self: ananova is not work safe. Interesting.

Depends where you work, I suppose.  shrug

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#1083 2005-12-06 2:43 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Tetrachloride wrote:

Pro_ wrote:

i dont see what nude cale3ndars has to do with the evolution vs stupidity debate anyway.

The first episode recreated was Adam and Eve.   shrug

(great pun omitted) tongue

Adam and Steve?


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#1084 2005-12-06 3:03 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Pro_ wrote:

Tetrachloride wrote:

Pro_ wrote:

i dont see what nude cale3ndars has to do with the evolution vs stupidity debate anyway.

The first episode recreated was Adam and Eve.   shrug

(great pun omitted) tongue

Adam and Steve?

Well here it is.

I must have been feeling my Oats this morning.

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#1085 2005-12-06 3:04 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Tetrachloride wrote:

Pro_ wrote:

Tetrachloride wrote:


The first episode recreated was Adam and Eve.   shrug

(great pun omitted) tongue

Adam and Steve?

Well here it is.

I must have been feeling my Oats this morning.

Hey, none of that either.  Don't touch me th...stop it!   I mean it, I'll scream.

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#1086 2005-12-06 5:26 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Steve has nice firm breasts?


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#1087 2005-12-06 6:34 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

A very very spirited 'high five' to Pro_ for the transcript. What is so telling is the vitriol of the pseudo-christians vs. the 'elitist' academics. The name callers aren't Christian in any sense of the teachings of Jesus Christ. They graphically show that they are of their brethren, the devil: "By their works, you shall know them." Disingenuous is a polite word for political assassination, which is their real goal. It's gratifying to see the 'thinkers' hit back with hard fact and reasoned rebuttal. It's time to get tough!

Thanks Pro_. Welcome to the discussion.smile


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#1088 2005-12-06 7:50 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

thanks, I figured I might as well share that while I read all the email that accumulated in my 2 month absence from the internet.


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#1089 2005-12-13 3:08 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Does ID explain how a duckbilled platypus came to be ?


Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim.  Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet."  They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.

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#1090 2005-12-13 3:22 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Of course, God has a sense of humor tongue


The recent medical controversy over whether vaccinations cause autism reveals a habit of human cognition—thinking anecdotally comes naturally, whereas thinking scientifically does not. -- Michael Shermer

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#1091 2005-12-13 3:48 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Well, AiG certainly thinks that it's a baffling animal:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/creatio … atypus.asp

Most of the article is a typical "argument from incedulity" or "argument from ignorance" (you pick...).  You have to read to the end to get to the best part of the article where they claim that biologists were wrong on one thing (that platypi only ever lived in Australia), thus they must be wrong everywhere.

Then, it gets even better.  They note that fossil platypus teeth have been found in S. America AND go on to state that modern platypi HAVE NO TEETH.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong...but if they accept the toothed platypi of S. America, does it not follow that toothlessness EVOLVED????

For a fairly good summary of platypi evolution, and a critique of YEC craziness on this file, see:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/platypus.html


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#1092 2005-12-13 3:53 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

I saw some of the buggers in a zoo in Australia.  They're a LOT smaller than I thought they'd be.

Could have been robots, though, I didn't get to touch them.


Does ID explain why cancer exists ?  Or people with extra Y chromosomes, or other genetic birth defects?


(I realize there may be no ID or creationists reading this thread anymore)


Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim.  Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet."  They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.

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#1093 2005-12-13 4:30 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

JakeTheTall wrote:

I saw some of the buggers in a zoo in Australia.  They're a LOT smaller than I thought they'd be.

I always figured that they were beaver-sized.  But that's probably because I'm Canadian.

How big are they?


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#1094 2005-12-13 6:53 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Hank Rearden wrote:

JakeTheTall wrote:

I saw some of the buggers in a zoo in Australia.  They're a LOT smaller than I thought they'd be.

I always figured that they were beaver-sized.  But that's probably because I'm Canadian.

How big are they?

The ones I saw were maybe 8 to 10 inches long. 

Wikipedia wrote:

Weight varies considerably between less than 1 kg to more than 2 kg; its body length ranges from 3040 cm, and its tail length from 1015 cm for males and 813 cm for females.


Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim.  Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet."  They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.

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#1095 2005-12-13 7:02 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

JakeTheTall wrote:

Does ID explain why cancer exists ?  Or people with extra Y chromosomes, or other genetic birth defects?

In what way would the origin of cancer differ from a Creationist worldview or Darwinistic worldview?


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So why don't we both either stand up and fight
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#1096 2005-12-13 7:55 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Phydeaux wrote:

JakeTheTall wrote:

Does ID explain why cancer exists ?  Or people with extra Y chromosomes, or other genetic birth defects?

In what way would the origin of cancer differ from a Creationist worldview or Darwinistic worldview?

Well, I guess for a Creationist...why would the Maker design something that could have the basic blueprint (genes) have a flaw, that created a sickness (cancer) ?  One that strikes a decent-sized number of people ?


Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim.  Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet."  They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.

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#1097 2005-12-13 8:01 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

JakeTheTall wrote:

Well, I guess for a Creationist...why would the Maker design something that could have the basic blueprint (genes) have a flaw, that created a sickness (cancer) ?  One that strikes a decent-sized number of people ?

That would apply to more than just cancer, wouldn't it?

Judging from what I see in the immediate past, cancer as diagnosed didn't become a huge issue until our last few generations. Is it a degradation from normal human wear and tear, or is it the result of a species not properly taking in the necessities of life, but still going on to reproduce?


Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.

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#1098 2005-12-13 8:34 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

Fido the Gaul wrote:

Is it a degradation from normal human wear and tear, or is it the result of a species not properly taking in the necessities of life, but still going on to reproduce?

so, death is the result of impropriety? The wages of sin is death, and all that?


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#1099 2005-12-13 8:49 pm

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

jerwin wrote:

Fido the Gaul wrote:

Is it a degradation from normal human wear and tear, or is it the result of a species not properly taking in the necessities of life, but still going on to reproduce?

so, death is the result of impropriety? The wages of sin is death, and all that?

Ah, so you're saying the more one consumes of fast food and the culture it creates, the more one should be rewarded?


Spirit was crushed; now is fading, But I want to help make things right.
Because I can see and I can feel, and you can see and you can feel
So why don't we both either stand up and fight
Or at least together we'll call it a night.

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#1100 2005-12-15 9:25 am

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Re: Evolution. Creation. Intelligent Design. Darwinism. Etc.

National Geographic says the large predatory animals of  King Kong (2005) could not have evolved on such a small island.  http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news … _kong.html

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