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#1 2005-12-05 10:00 pm

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iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

I'm planning on buying an iPod nano as a gift to my girlfriend. However, it occurred to me that she uses a USB 2.0 external hard drive. So, I thought, I would buy a FireWire cable for it. But the Apple site says that the Dock connector-to-FireWire cable isn't compatible with the nano. Why is this? So I'm forced to buy a USB 2.0 hub to make this work? This seems like a dicey solution, especially considering all the stories I've read of iPods have trouble being recognized over USB... anyone have any ideas, any suggestions, any thoughts, any news? Thanks in advance.


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#2 2005-12-05 10:38 pm

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

But the Apple site says that the Dock connector-to-FireWire cable isn't compatible with the nano. Why is this?

The iPod Nano doesn't have FireWire controller circuitry.  If you hook up a FireWire-to-Dock cable, the iPod Nano will suck power from your computer or A/C adapter ... but that's it.  It won't listen to the data pins.

So I'm forced to buy a USB 2.0 hub to make this work?

If you don't have enough free USB ports, yes.

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#3 2005-12-06 10:54 am

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

iPods don't like hubs.  If you plug in a FireWire cable, it will tell you that FireWire syncing is not supported.


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#4 2005-12-06 4:00 pm

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

MacBoy4139 wrote:

iPods don't like hubs.  If you plug in a FireWire cable, it will tell you that FireWire syncing is not supported.

Right. So what am I supposed to do?


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#5 2005-12-06 4:23 pm

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

thekingalrock wrote:

MacBoy4139 wrote:

iPods don't like hubs.  If you plug in a FireWire cable, it will tell you that FireWire syncing is not supported.

Right. So what am I supposed to do?

Buy an iPod. Plug it into a USB port on your computer. Done.

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#6 2005-12-06 7:46 pm

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

iPods don't like hubs? Unpowered hubs, obviously, but I can't see why a powered hub wouldn't work.

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#7 2005-12-07 9:49 am

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

On the PowerBooks before the current ones (maybe two revisions before the current ones) are there two USB 2 ports or one USB 1.1 and one USB 2.0?


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#8 2005-12-07 10:42 am

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

pottymouth wrote:

iPods don't like hubs? Unpowered hubs, obviously, but I can't see why a powered hub wouldn't work.

It doesn't make any technical sense, but people have reported issues.  It should work.


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#9 2005-12-07 10:43 am

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

thekingalrock wrote:

On the PowerBooks before the current ones (maybe two revisions before the current ones) are there two USB 2 ports or one USB 1.1 and one USB 2.0?

Depends on the system - my 17" is supposed to be like that, but no matter which USB port I plug my video iPod in, it charges and syncs really fast.


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#10 2005-12-07 1:21 pm

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

And which revision is your 17"? Which is the first revision to have both USB 2 ports?


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#11 2005-12-08 8:12 am

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

Mine is the rev B 17".

As for the other question - check www.everymac.com - my guess is rev D.


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#12 2005-12-14 12:37 pm

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

Buy the hub. I found a Belkin USB2 4port powered hub at Big Lots for $4.00.
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#13 2005-12-17 3:22 pm

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

I'm having the same problem, actually.  What about this as a solution?
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/sterlingtek/ipnafica.html

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#14 2005-12-17 3:57 pm

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

featherpillow wrote:

I'm having the same problem, actually.  What about this as a solution?
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/sterlingtek/ipnafica.html

Unless you know how to crack open an iPod Nano and add the necessary firewire control circuitry, using a firewire cable will do you no good!

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#15 2005-12-17 5:49 pm

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

I'm amazed that product exists.  First, it makes it appear that it will transfer data using the FireWire cable - simply not true as covered here and on Apple's own site.  Second, using the dock connector requires being part of the "Made for iPod" program.


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#16 2005-12-18 7:48 am

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Re: iPod nano FireWire connectivity?

I've sent in feedback to Apple, complaining about the loss of FW connectivity. They have a feedback form, a bit out of date, on the web site. I highly recommend sending in a polite complaint about the issue.

Here's the URL:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipod.html

I'm sure tossing out FW is a nod to the PC world, and an attempt to make an even smaller form factor, however, Apple should be informed about how their faithful followers feel about product changes.


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