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#1 2006-01-14 9:57 am
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Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
http://www.hardmac.com/news/2006-01-14/
One can notice that the processor is not soldered to the motherboard, but via a socket. So, it will be potentially possible to change it in the future, if Apple does not prevent such modifications by some hardware or software trick.
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#2 2006-01-14 10:06 am
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
I can be at least 99.702 percent sure that Apple mb will be clock/multplier locked, just look at another tread I start about trying to upgrade a G5 PM cpu.
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#3 2006-01-14 10:06 am
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
so you can plug the G5 into the socket when its available 
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#4 2006-01-14 10:17 am
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#5 2006-01-14 11:04 am
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
No smurf, Sherlock.
What would be the point of not complying to standard PC hardware architecture on the iMac, now that the Intel switch is going ahead?
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#6 2006-01-14 11:09 am
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
CPU upgrades are always the worst type of upgrade anyways.
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#7 2006-01-14 11:20 am
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
MacBoy4139 wrote:
CPU upgrades are always the worst type of upgrade anyways.
'tis why my upgrade choice is at the power cord
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#8 2006-01-14 11:22 am
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macnuke wrote:
MacBoy4139 wrote:
CPU upgrades are always the worst type of upgrade anyways.
'tis why my upgrade choice is at the power cord
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
pcguy wrote:
I can be at least 99.702 percent sure that Apple mb will be clock/multplier locked, just look at another tread I start about trying to upgrade a G5 PM cpu.
I'm 100% sure you're right. The multiplier is locked on-chip, and I seriously doubt Apple will provide any FSB settings in the EFI setup, if there is one. However, I'm quite confident that users will still be able to upgrade the CPU simply by plugging in a faster one. Also, as is the case with other Macs, somebody will probably figure out how to reconfigure the PLL by soldering resistors, so overclocking still might be possible.
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#11 2006-01-14 12:10 pm
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
Mr. T wrote:
...A more interesting question, is what's going to happen with Sonnett now?
They will adapt and capitalize.
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#12 2006-01-14 12:21 pm
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
what about the other .198%?
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#13 2006-01-14 12:46 pm
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TheConfuzed1 wrote:
Mr. T wrote:
...A more interesting question, is what's going to happen with Sonnett now?
They will adapt and capitalize.
By selling boxed CPU upgrades? Intel already does that. They'd have to find something else to sell.
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#14 2006-01-14 12:48 pm
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
Mr. T wrote:
TheConfuzed1 wrote:
Mr. T wrote:
...A more interesting question, is what's going to happen with Sonnett now?
They will adapt and capitalize.
By selling boxed CPU upgrades? Intel already does that. They'd have to find something else to sell.
They are doing so well selling G5 upgrades and all..... I'm surprised they still exist. How many magazines year after year say "a CPU upgrade is the worst investment anyone could make" before people get the picture?
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#15 2006-01-14 1:12 pm
Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
I am still quite chuffed with my G3/333 PowerBook 1400, and my parents will never need a speedier computer than my old 1.5 GHz G4 Cube.
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#16 2006-01-14 1:34 pm
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
cpu upgrades are worth it if depending on the price. My years over on the Dark side I picked up many cpu upgrades on ebay not much money.
I love the macs but the limited ability I have to tinker with them drives me nuts, I have a 1.25 mini I over clocked to 1.5 added I gig of ram and a 7200 rpm internal HD. Now I'm looking to add wifi to it with an external antenna now if I could only pull that cpu and stick something faster in it I would be stoked.
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#17 2006-01-14 2:11 pm
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
Alien wrote:
I am still quite chuffed with my G3/333 PowerBook 1400, and my parents will never need a speedier computer than my old 1.5 GHz G4 Cube.
I thought cubes only went up to 500MHz, unless you got an upgrade, in which case, why? This whole discussion is about how processor upgrades aren't worth it.
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#18 2006-01-14 2:21 pm
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dcalfine wrote:
Alien wrote:
I am still quite chuffed with my G3/333 PowerBook 1400, and my parents will never need a speedier computer than my old 1.5 GHz G4 Cube.
I thought cubes only went up to 500MHz, unless you got an upgrade, in which case, why? This whole discussion is about how processor upgrades aren't worth it.
I think the point is that he did upgrade, and he is glad that he did.
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#19 2006-01-14 2:22 pm
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
Pcguy, is that photo from the iMac G5?
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#20 2006-01-14 2:29 pm
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
That photo is from iMac Intel.
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#21 2006-01-14 2:48 pm
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whoa, that was a fast response then.
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#22 2006-01-14 3:09 pm
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
MacBoy4139 wrote:
They are doing so well selling G5 upgrades and all..... I'm surprised they still exist. How many magazines year after year say "a CPU upgrade is the worst investment anyone could make" before people get the picture?
That is true, considering a shiny new Mac mini is $499. Mac users do tend to mate with their systems for life, however, making processor upgrades good for those who want to keep their old Sawtooth systems.
It all depends on the user and what the user wants, not on some stupid magazine saying "it's not worth it." It certainly is worth it to the user that wants to keep their old system.
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#23 2006-01-14 3:12 pm
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
MysticCow wrote:
MacBoy4139 wrote:
They are doing so well selling G5 upgrades and all..... I'm surprised they still exist. How many magazines year after year say "a CPU upgrade is the worst investment anyone could make" before people get the picture?
That is true, considering a shiny new Mac mini is $499. Mac users do tend to mate with their systems for life, however, making processor upgrades good for those who want to keep their old Sawtooth systems.
It all depends on the user and what the user wants, not on some stupid magazine saying "it's not worth it." It certainly is worth it to the user that wants to keep their old system.
You're right, but if I were in the situation where I needed more power, a CPU upgrade is so close to the cost of a new system - and you get a bigger HD, faster system bus, faster RAM, etc.
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#24 2006-01-14 3:50 pm
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
I upped my B&W G3 400 to a G4 500 for less than a hundred bucks. I consider the change to be more than "worth it."
I don't have $1000+ to buy a new mac, and I won't buy a mini or iMac because I really enjoy being able to upgrade my desktop.
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#25 2006-01-14 5:30 pm
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Re: Intel iMac CPU is NOT soldered to the motherboard
MacBoy4139 wrote:
...You're right, but if I were in the situation...
Emphasis on the word, "I," because everyone's wants and needs are different.
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