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#1 2002-12-09 5:47 pm

Dudejapan
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Hey. . . 9.2.2 is crashing like a b|tch

This stinks.  I'm having to restart my computer 75% of the time.  Most often it freezes rightafter the background comes up but before it builds the desktop.  I've tried rebuilding the desktop and zapping the PRAM.  Nothing works.  Help!  What do I need to do to make this thing more stable?

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#2 2002-12-10 12:14 am

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Re: Hey. . . 9.2.2 is crashing like a b|tch

oooh, I've got an idea! Switch to OS X!

Sarcasm aside, I suggest you fool around with your extensions. Turn them all off and see if things work. Then turn them on a few at a time until you see which one is the problem. There's a nifty app to help you do this, but I forgot the name. I think it's by Casady and Green, though, so go find their website a look for something to do with extensions.
If that doesn't work, er... reinstall the OS?
Good luck.


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#3 2002-12-10 1:16 am

Dudejapan
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Re: Hey. . . 9.2.2 is crashing like a b|tch

I've cut out absolutely everything I don't need.  The one thing I've been putting off is the reinstall, but how is the easiest way to reinstall 9 when I'm running a OSX/OS9 machine?

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#4 2002-12-10 3:31 pm

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Re: Hey. . . 9.2.2 is crashing like a b|tch

First, make sure all your hardware is plugged in securely. If you've got ADB, a loose connection will crash your Mac for sure.

Then try rebuilding the desktop.

Zapping the PRAM sometimes helps, but only sometimes.

As a last resort, install a fresh system folder.


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#5 2002-12-13 9:09 am

greg booth
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Re: Hey. . . 9.2.2 is crashing like a b|tch

If your machine will boot with the extensions off then I suggest you go into your system folder and delete the finder preferences and the system preferences. It could be that they have become corrupt. Also if you've had another machine connected vai a network then you would want to dump the Servers folder in the system folder. Sometimes that can cause a problem because your machine is looking to automatically log onto another machine that is no longer on the network.

Hope this works.

Greg

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#6 2002-12-13 9:11 am

greg booth
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Re: Hey. . . 9.2.2 is crashing like a b|tch

Another good one that causes startup freezes can be ATM deluxe. If you are using ATM deluxe to load your fonts then start your machine up without the extensions and delete the ATM font database file and the ATM preference file. Again these files can be corrupted and when ATM goes to load them at startup your machine just freezes.

Cheers again.

Greg

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#7 2002-12-13 11:28 pm

Dudejapan
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Re: Hey. . . 9.2.2 is crashing like a b|tch

OK, after reinstalling the system software things seem to be going a bit smoother.  But I still am not completely sure.   The restore disc had me worried as it was working, but the only thing it ended up effecting was the IE 5 prefs.  So if you restore OS9  back that up.  Otherwise the one time that it has crashed was with iTunes.  Hmmm. . . .

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#8 2002-12-15 11:07 pm

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Re: Hey. . . 9.2.2 is crashing like a b|tch

Any time I've had a problem like that, it usually did come back to an extention that was installed as part of a third-party installer.  While the restore method works just fine in getting things back to where they were supposed to be, I find it better to hunt down the extention the decided to screw up my day and eliminate it.  That way I fix the problem and also know what caused it so I don't reinstall it again.

Real easy thing to do, boot with extentions off and open the Extention Manager in your control panels.  Then Switch the settings to Mac OS Only and then click the restart.  Depending on how much you've installed, will determine how long it takes, but most of it will go rather quickly since you should end up learning your system pretty well.  Next step , (in my way of it, I'm sure others have better.), Go back into the Exten-Manager and create a new setting calling it whatever you want.  Then look at the colom headings and click the "Package" one.  The reason I like this one is you'll have an easier time determining which extentions went with it's particular app.  Since you should know what you've had loaded on your system the longest, you can usually, (not always), assume those will be okay and reactivate them.  We you get closer to the ones that are more recent, activate them one group at a time and restart after each set.  When you see the problem come back up, you'll know which set caused it and you can go back and disable it and actiate the remaining ones.  Tedious, yes, but un-complicated enough that most can easily put themselves through the process.  Once you know the offending extention, you can check with it's manufacturer/company to see if they have any new info on it and how or what to replace it with.


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