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#26 2006-05-31 12:01 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

"You don't have permission to leave the battle zone!"

The only thing different about this Left Behind game is that it is the violent opposite of Xian teachings, however historically accurate it is. It's the obvious extension of that disgusting series.

Interesting about the antichrist bit, though. Wonder if he is allowed to win?


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#27 2006-05-31 12:14 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

Link to the actual game info

LBG is developing products to include the same types of compelling elements that have made interactive games popular for years, and yet offer a less graphic experience to the sexual themes and gratuitous violence currently found in many titles
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Wage a war of apocalyptic proportions in LEFT BEHIND: Eternal Forces
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Recover ancient scriptures and witness spectacular Angelic and Demonic activity as a direct consequence of your choices.   

· Command your forces through intense battles across a breathtaking, authentic depiction of New York City .

· Control more than 30 units types - from Prayer Warrior and Hellraiser to Spies, Special Forces and Battle Tanks!

Sounds like "the game inspired by the books" rather than "hey, pretend its 2006 and you go out and kill heathens."  I've selectively quoted to show the fun contradiction of less gratuitous violence, but lots of battles.  Remember kids, Thou Shalt Not Kill!


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#28 2006-05-31 2:07 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

ChronoTriggerXP wrote:

My personal definition isn't necessarly religious, eco-terrorists fall into the same category. I guess extremists would be a better word I suppose. Everyone is guilty of letting their beliefs cloud their judgement from time to time.

Well, "Fundamentalist" does mean a specific theology, at least in Christianity, which I wish it did not - because the name itself is propoganda for the group.

The fundamental truths of the Bible are what many Christians aspire for, and some of the less intelligent ones assume that means the the fundamentalist theology. I mean, they wouldn't be called "fundamentalist" if that wasn't the case, no? wink


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#29 2006-05-31 3:42 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

Well, calling themselves fundalmentalists sure sounds better than religious facsist.


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#30 2006-05-31 4:12 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

I wonder what Jesus thinks about this.


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#31 2006-05-31 4:22 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

punkgeek wrote:

I wonder what Jesus thinks about this.

I doubt He knows them. I've found that, as a rule, fundamentalists - aren't. They miss the "fundamental" principles of their supposed faith in nearly every case. Certainly with "Christian" fundies this is the case. I believe ChronoTriggerXP described them best as "extremists"

For example:
1) Fundies are almost always arrogant and prideful - assuming that they are somehow better than the "heathens". Yet, Christ said clearly that ALL have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God.

2) Fundies seem to think it's OK to judge others as unworthy, while implicitly claiming to be pure themselves. Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.", and the OT says "Take the log from your own eye before attempting to remove the speck from your brothers eye."

3) Fundies respond to non-believers with hatred. Christ said that we should love them.

4) Fundies attack other Christians who point out their errors and hypocrisy. Christ taught that the church is a body, and that we should work together. Paul loving corrected several of the early churches, and this was right.

I could keep going on, but I think it's pretty clear these clowns represent only themselves. Their behavior does not track with what the Bible teaches.

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#32 2006-05-31 4:43 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

Yeah, but they're a powerful group, and they attract dumbasses who buy into their system.

BTW: Christ never said "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Paul did. And the NT includes the verse about 'the log in your own eye', not the OT.

Your slacking, brother! wink tongue


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#33 2006-05-31 4:45 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

ok, I'll be really impressed if you can read the all the books in the original Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek.


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#34 2006-05-31 4:45 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

punkgeek wrote:

I wonder what Jesus thinks about this.

Dunno - he is F'ckn Metal though.


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#35 2006-05-31 5:02 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

sturner wrote:

ok, I'll be really impressed if you can read the all the books in the original Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek.

I am learning. Does that count?

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#36 2006-05-31 5:09 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

Well, they authors of some of the NT are not telling all anyway. They are rehashing events that they were not witness to, and some are showing internal political influence.


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#37 2006-05-31 6:19 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

punkgeek wrote:

Yeah, but they're a powerful group, and they attract dumbasses who buy into their system.

BTW: Christ never said "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

He did say

I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me.

Different phrase, same consequences.


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#38 2006-06-01 7:06 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

Personally, I think, the regular posters on this forum are not the 'mainsteam' fundamental Christians who have been described in this thread. I refer to mainly res and static who study the bible and delve into history and language to substaniate their faith and conclusions. I don't agree with their beliefs, but they appear to be dedicated lay scholars. That gives them credibility I respect.


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#39 2006-06-01 8:02 pm

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I agree.


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#40 2006-06-01 10:18 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

Yeah, I wouldn't label Res (as much as I disagree with him sometimes) a extremist. I just can't see him blowing up an abortion clinic or some such.


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#41 2006-06-01 11:25 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

I so totally would ('ve a few years ago), though. tongue big_smile


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#42 2006-06-01 11:59 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

user wrote:

"You don't have permission to leave the battle zone!"

The only thing different about this Left Behind game is that it is the violent opposite of Xian teachings, however historically accurate it is. It's the obvious extension of that disgusting series.

Have you read the series?


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#43 2006-06-02 9:00 am

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

resedit wrote:

user wrote:

"You don't have permission to leave the battle zone!"

The only thing different about this Left Behind game is that it is the violent opposite of Xian teachings, however historically accurate it is. It's the obvious extension of that disgusting series.

Have you read the series?

They have very impressive margins.  Like 2 inches.  Like when you were in college and trying to pad a paper.

My biggest objection to the series, aside from rejecting the literalist worldview, is that they actively encourage rejecting thinking as evil.


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#44 2006-06-02 11:26 am

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

resedit wrote:

punkgeek wrote:

Yeah, but they're a powerful group, and they attract dumbasses who buy into their system.

BTW: Christ never said "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

He did say

I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me.

Different phrase, same consequences.

Interpretation, interpretation.


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#45 2006-06-02 2:24 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

kb5zhh wrote:

My biggest objection to the series, aside from rejecting the literalist worldview, is that they actively encourage rejecting thinking as evil.

Example please.


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#46 2006-06-02 2:27 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

They have very impressive margins.  Like 2 inches.  Like when you were in college and trying to pad a paper.

Many instructors give very specific instructions about margin size, font size, and line spacing. Some even specify what font you are to use (which is a PITA if it is not a free font, free as in I can legally obtain a Type 1 version to use in Linux with LaTeX).

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#47 2006-06-02 2:30 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

resedit wrote:

kb5zhh wrote:

My biggest objection to the series, aside from rejecting the literalist worldview, is that they actively encourage rejecting thinking as evil.

Example please.

That was the main theme of the first book.  I can't recall exact quotes, but multiple times you have characters saying things like "i had to reject all of the evidence and everything I knew and just go on faith" with the context making it clear that faith and evidence are by definition irreconcilable.


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#48 2006-06-02 2:33 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

kb5zhh wrote:

resedit wrote:

kb5zhh wrote:

My biggest objection to the series, aside from rejecting the literalist worldview, is that they actively encourage rejecting thinking as evil.

Example please.

That was the main theme of the first book.  I can't recall exact quotes, but multiple times you have characters saying things like "i had to reject all of the evidence and everything I knew and just go on faith" with the context making it clear that faith and evidence are by definition irreconcilable.

Yeah. Like Maverick in 'Top Gun'; "...up there, there's no time to think. If you think, you're dead"

That's from the Gospel of Cruise.


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#49 2006-06-02 2:33 pm

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Re: The sick Christian sniper game

resedit wrote:

They have very impressive margins.  Like 2 inches.  Like when you were in college and trying to pad a paper.

Many instructors give very specific instructions about margin size, font size, and line spacing. Some even specify what font you are to use (which is a PITA if it is not a free font, free as in I can legally obtain a Type 1 version to use in Linux with LaTeX).

Point being, the left behind books had gigantic margins for a book.


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#50 2006-06-02 2:35 pm

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Marginal writing?


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