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Are you sure that you put it in the [Graphics Options] portion of the config file? I'm not sure if putting it in a separate part will cause it to crash, but it might. Also, where exactly does it crash? When loading the game, loading the save, or just walking around? I've noticed that with VBOs off, it's a little unstable, but as long as you save often it's not that big of a deal.

akb825 wrote:

Are you sure that you put it in the [Graphics Options] portion of the config file? I'm not sure if putting it in a separate part will cause it to crash, but it might. Also, where exactly does it crash? When loading the game, loading the save, or just walking around? I've noticed that with VBOs off, it's a little unstable, but as long as you save often it's not that big of a deal.

It crashes while walking around the grassy hills within a few seconds of loading up.  I have a save point from earlier that I think I'll try and use to see if it will be more stable.  Another thing I should try is turning on all of the nifty options and making the resolution something decent again.  For some reason games often "seem" to be less stable when on lower resolutions. 

EDIT:  Oh, and yes, I put it under the [Graphic Options] part of the config file! 

dcalfine wrote:

the only place where you really need them off is matale grounds.  Most other places a decent video card will do you fine.

I haven't even been able to make it to wherever the Matale's are hiding and I have a radeon 9800.  Up until this point I had all the graphic options turned on and it ran very nicely.  This is a rather large oversight on the part of the developer...     

Ooopsie!  There I go ranting with those disturbing smilies again!

Last edited by Venethia (2005-12-05 11:31 pm)

Sometimes you happen to save right where an unstable part is. I've done it before, and fortunately had a save point from before. A word of caution: disable the hack before entering the ruins: they caused extreme instability when I tried it before. When playing through the game again, I didn't have any problems with the hack disabled.

I'm all for a birthday celebration. It looks like Venethia is already setting it up for us.

Venethia wrote:

This is a rather large oversight on the part of the developer...

If you don't like turning off VBOs, "just" install 10.3.7 and run KOTOR. Smooth as glass, no crashes. ;-)

Well, this is it! The topics birthday! It's now 1 year old! How old do you think it will get to be?

Zalister wrote:

Anyone have any idea if 10.4.4 will offer the VBO fix?

In my preliminary testing on my Mac mini, it seems like 10.4.4 *finally* fixes the performance issue on the outdoor Dantooine levels. Can those of you having this problem verify with the KOTOR 1.03c patch and 10.4.4?

What I think we all fail to realize is that Brad and Co. didn't have much to work with in the first place.

Yeah, it pretty much was Apple screwing around that messed it up. Is there a fix for those with 10.3.9 (it was broken back then right)?

Uhm, I think it was ATI driver updates for both the PC and macintosh that broke it since the same bug appeared on PCs.

I wish there were still independent video driver updates for OS X.

Bat wrote:

That doesn't seem to relate. It worked, then an OS update broke it, now it apparently works again.

What I think some of us FAIL to REALIZE is that Brad and Co. never had much to work with in the FIRST PLACE.

I think disabling the VBOs is a better option. I've had a few crashes in Dantooine, but I haven't had anything to the point of where they describe. It's really only one change in the config file. However, for your Radeon 9200, I suppose you don't have much of a choice.

Thanks Glenda from Aspyr for responding.  It is always nice to have the "source" reply in a this forum.

NAG wrote:

There are, sort of.

Please explain. Pretty please.