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#101 2006-03-19 8:05 pm

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

AAGGHHH!!! Mac OS 9! Let it die already!

Oh, wait...didn't Steve-O hold a funeral for it way back at WWDC 2002? But still, it boggles my mind about the sheer number of people holding onto Classic apps and even those who hoard G5s just so they can run outdated Classic apps after the Intel transition is over. They might as well be hoarding copies of Windows ME...confused


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#102 2006-03-19 10:47 pm

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

MFfan310 wrote:

AAGGHHH!!! Mac OS 9! Let it die already!

Oh, wait...didn't Steve-O hold a funeral for it way back at WWDC 2002? But still, it boggles my mind about the sheer number of people holding onto Classic apps and even those who hoard G5s just so they can run outdated Classic apps after the Intel transition is over. They might as well be hoarding copies of Windows ME...confused

What's the point in hording copies of Windows ME?  Windows XP can run Windows 95/98/ME apps just fine, as well as Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS apps.  So it's not really the same thing, is it?  Plus ME sucks balls.  I agree that in general, it makes more sense to upgrade to native versions of apps, than to buy an "outdated" machine, but some folks don't have a choice.  If you need a proprietary app or an app which doesn't have a functional OS X equivelant (there's a lot of educational software in this boat), what do you do then?  Do you Duckt-tape a Pismo to the back of your MBP?  I know of a few folks in this situation (granted they're a small minority) and fortunately I'm not one of them.  I just like to play some classic (note the lack of capitalization) Mac games and use a couple of other Classic apps here and there - nothing much, I suppose.  Let's just say I won't be hording a G5 any time soon. 

I guess the real question, is how long should Apple continue to enable the use of OS 9 Apps, if 5 years isn't long enough?  Is Microsoft's 25 years (and counting) too long?  Those are tough questions to answer, but common sense dictates that M$ would be foolish to maintain support for apps that old unless the cost of doing so is at least as insignificant as the flea on an elephant's ass.  Apply the flea/ass metaphor to Apple supporting apps that are only 5 years old, and it starts to look like not such a bad idea.


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#103 2006-03-19 10:53 pm

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

There's an OS X version of Starcraft. I'm all set.

Sure, I've got a 7500 which will eventually dual-boot X and 9, but that's pretty much only for Unreal and Quake stuff (and a few others).

But, I mean, even COPTER runs on X now. Any software company straglers should just be shot.


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#104 2006-03-19 11:06 pm

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

Shadowless wrote:

There's an OS X version of Starcraft. I'm all set.

Sure, I've got a 7500 which will eventually dual-boot X and 9, but that's pretty much only for Unreal and Quake stuff (and a few others).

But, I mean, even COPTER runs on X now. Any software company straglers should just be shot.

what about devs that went out of business before the switch to os X?
like the dev of the game "the odyssey" david larkin?

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#105 2006-03-19 11:11 pm

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

Spiffy.


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#106 2006-03-19 11:25 pm

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

Freezer mac wrote:

Shadowless wrote:

There's an OS X version of Starcraft. I'm all set.

Sure, I've got a 7500 which will eventually dual-boot X and 9, but that's pretty much only for Unreal and Quake stuff (and a few others).

But, I mean, even COPTER runs on X now. Any software company straglers should just be shot.

what about devs that went out of business before the switch to os X?
like the dev of the game "the odyssey" david larkin?

They can live (only because I am so merciful). Again, that's why I have a 9-capable computer; for old games. I guess it's the same reason someone would have a PC.

Serious stuff really shouldn't be done in 9 anymore. Especially now with the Intel transition.


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#107 2006-03-20 1:20 pm

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

MacBoy4139 wrote:

CG5Addict wrote:

Phydeaux wrote:

That and it's a Cee thread. Jeez. For the loss.

As much as I am surprised anybody continued this thread this late, Your comment just makes you a @$$. mad

Just that comment?  I thought it was "common knowledge."  No?  confused

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#108 2006-03-20 2:31 pm

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

9 will be dead like it has been for the last few years


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#109 2006-03-20 6:30 pm

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

CG5Addict wrote:

MacBoy4139 wrote:

CG5Addict wrote:


As much as I am surprised anybody continued this thread this late, Your comment just makes you a @$$. mad

Just that comment?  I thought it was "common knowledge."  No?  confused

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Who said I was trying to be "funny"?  Nice idiot graphic, btw.


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#110 2006-03-20 7:18 pm

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

MacBoy4139 wrote:

Who said I was trying to be "funny"?  Nice idiot graphic, btw.

I take it you haven't seen the unofficial user-made Max smilies. They're awesome. Enjoy!


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#111 2006-03-21 12:23 am

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

Anybody know a good free OS X replacement for gifbuilder?  It's the last thing I use regularly besides games.


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#112 2006-03-21 9:37 am

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

Metacell wrote:

Anybody know a good free OS X replacement for gifbuilder?  It's the last thing I use regularly besides games.

GifBuilder has a Carbon version.


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#113 2006-03-21 10:36 am

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

The only real reason OS9 is still on my Pismo is for the old games.  And I must admit, I still get a kick out of those old AfterDark screensavers.

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#114 2006-03-21 10:40 am

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

Awesome--thanks!


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#115 2006-03-21 5:32 pm

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

I pretty much timed the whole 9/X thing perfectly for my own needs.  I bought the last new Mac that would run 9 natively, in hopes that by the time I needed to upgrade to a newer Mac, I'd be done with 9.  And now, three and a half years later, I'd 100% done with 9.

I do pro audio and I know there are a lot of OS 9 rigs out there still.  Those are guys who have no interest in upgrading because they don't use their Macs as computers so much as they use them as audio equipment.

It'll be a long time before 9 is ever really "gone" - but I'm glad I'm not still using it!


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#116 2006-03-21 6:10 pm

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

iZoe wrote:

The only real reason OS9 is still on my Pismo is for the old games.  And I must admit, I still get a kick out of those old AfterDark screensavers.

And the games that were part of After Dark.


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#117 2006-04-01 4:25 am

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

Classic?? People actually still use that?

I think 5 years is enough time to say good bye.


Marcus wrote:

Moses wrote:

With out classic I can't play pirated Doom II!!>!>!   Neiiiiiin!

Uhh you can play it on OS X with DooMLegacy

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/5214

Tis what I do.

DOOMLegacy? Who the smurf uses that?

THIS is where it's at. It actually works and isn't buggy as all hell. And it looks a LOT nicer.
http://www.doomsdayhq.com/

DoomLegacy is old and busted.

DoomsDay is new hotness.

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#118 2006-07-17 1:34 am

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

titok16 wrote:

Vokbain wrote:

I let classic go about 2 years ago. Wait, no I didn't. I still play Podracer with it. sad

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#119 2006-07-17 1:43 am

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

*grabs shotgun*

You bumped this to say that?  You're two pages late in the thread... not to mention a year late! tongue

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#120 2006-07-17 1:46 am

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

Eh, I've been gone a while. Addiction to WoW and all that. tongue


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#121 2006-07-17 2:05 am

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Re: So What will happen to OS9

Aim for the head, Miles. It's the only way to put them down.

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