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sosumi wrote:

gozer wrote:

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/04/20060412011938.shtml

it can damned well be upgraded to the current core 2 duo which is what the original poster asked.

This logic and reason you use is amazing.  Do you have a newsletter?

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gozer wrote:

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/04/20060412011938.shtml

it can damned well be upgraded to the current core 2 duo which is what the original poster asked.

Call me when actually user start report in that they can swap out faster/newer cpu, this is just single report from one site on a preproduction unit that is making the claim.

As an example why this is all just hot air, plenty of test-preproduction intel/Amd cpu is not clock/mulipy lock either while production unit is, so don't go around giving out advice unless and until it is widely proven, by giving out rumor as fact, u are giving bad advice imo.

pcguy wrote:

Mr. T
We are talking about cpu drop in, not whole cpu broad/logic broad replacement.

Why?

For these older macs that have the cpu on a daughtercard, there is no functional difference to dropping in a new daughtercard and dropping in a new cpu on a zif based pc.

You take one part out, and drop in another that you purchased. Once done, you have a faster processor, and maybe some more L2 / L3 cache than before?

Why make such a fuss about not being able to go out and purchase a bare g4/g5 cpu and drop it in, when for the consumer buying the upgrade, with duaghtercard, is functionally equivalent?

As for the Mac Mini - bare cpu zif socket. Plus pin / featureset compatible cpu = easy upgrade. End Of Story.

pcguy wrote:

gozer wrote:

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/04/20060412011938.shtml

it can damned well be upgraded to the current core 2 duo which is what the original poster asked.

Call me when actually user start report in that they can swap out faster/newer cpu, this is just single report from one site on a preproduction unit that is making the claim.

As an example why this is all just hot air, plenty of test-preproduction intel/Amd cpu is not clock/mulipy lock either while production unit is, so don't go around giving out advice unless and until it is widely proven, by giving out rumor as fact, u are giving bad advice imo.

ok, you can't read or can't click links. in any case:

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Bit too far. -Sci

Last edited by gozer (2006-09-05 7:03 am)

pcguy wrote:

Gozer, I have click and read every link Scif provide, there is no detail about the issue I was asking which is not about the cpu itself, but how will the old mini handle the newer cpu requirement(bus speed requirement, voltage, multplier etc), there must be something I miss when I read those link, why don't u help us out and copy and paste those info for me, thx man.

no the issue you had was that the mac mini couldn't be upgraded to the current core 2 duo. which it can. end.

pcguy wrote:

I don't know, you might be right, but if that is true, I will eat that Core2Duo with milk for breakfast!
If that is true, that will be the first cpu in a Mac that can be swap out by average user with no major mod.
If that is true, This will also be the end of Apple computer, who would want to spend 1K-2K for a new Mac every 2yr when u can swap a new cpu in for 1/5 the price.

I did notice the inconsistencies in the Mac OS X window displays including the Pentium M 2.16 GHz reading in the About This Mac window. They all read the same clock speed however. I saw similar inconsistencies when I installed the MaxPower G3 upgrade in my PM 4400/200. I also saw no such inconsistencies when he was showing the XP screens. Given that and the time on the screen I'm willing to assign them a bit more validity.

BTW, the "Mac mini™ Core Duo 1.66GHz" thing on the top left on the Profiler window is his computer's name. As you can confirm looking at ANY other Profiler image. Here's mine.

gozer wrote:

pcguy wrote:

Anything is possible, however if you ask me if that is possible for a average person to upgrade the cpu, my gut feeling back by yrs of Apple's computer history tell me "noway".

well in this case you'd be wrong. or at least wrong about the apple part. upgrading a CPU in an iMac or Mac Mini is just as easy as a PC.

There have almost always been upgrade options for some model of mac or another.
My beige G3 had a G4 upgrade path, as did my original iMac (in fact, I put a G4 in my original iMac).

Gozer, the Core2Duo is out in the retail channel, lets just wait a bit and see what the hacker community have to report on the upgrade ability for current MiniMac system, read how well does it run/what kind of mod does it require with relationship to memory/volt/heat etc, check the performance difference between CoreDuo and Core2Duo(not Core2Duo vs G5 which mean zip) before giving out advice as thru it is your first hand info.

Last edited by pcguy (2006-09-05 10:27 pm)

pcguy wrote:

Gozer, the Core2Duo is out in the retail channel, lets just wait a bit and see what the hacker community have to report on the upgrade ability for current MiniMac system, read how well does it run/what kind of mod does it require with relationship to memory/volt/heat etc, check the performance difference between CoreDuo and Core2Duo(not Core2Duo vs G5 which mean zip) before giving out advice as thru it is your first hand info.

as opposed to your first-hand snarky remarks? you immediately said no even with reports that not only was it possible but that it had been done. you then changed subject to previous interations of computers and now are attempting to qualify it with worries about memory/volt/heat which as far as i can tell are just as valid a concern with PC's. in which case, someone asking about the upgradability of a processor would hopefully be taking those things into account. in any case, the processor is not soldered down, is socket compatible and stable enough to at least boot up and bring up system profiler.

pcguy wrote:

...my gut feeling back by yrs of Apple's computer history tell me "noway".

pcguy wrote:

I don't know, you might be right, but if that is true, I will eat that Core2Duo with milk for breakfast!
If that is true, that will be the first cpu in a Mac that can be swap out by average user with no major mod.
If that is true, This will also be the end of Apple computer, who would want to spend 1K-2K for a new Mac every 2yr when u can swap a new cpu in for 1/5 the price.

down-talking, arrogant remarks because you insist on talking smurf about macintosh. apple does a lot of smurf wrong but when someone wants an answer to a question and you bring your bias and politics in to confuse an issue you're being a dick. be it through bias or ignorance i don't know.

Ok before you start bitching about this not being private I'm going to address a couple of you in particular and feel the rest of the forum members need a reminder to step back and consider their action up to this point and in the near future.

Your right he probably should have taken it to PM however it did serve a purpose in that it made me step back and look at things a bit more as a moderator than as a moderator/moderator for a second. You been pretty much trolling an awful lot as of late and in this topic in particular. I know you have your particular view and make many valid observations, but there are time you do come close to crossing the don't be a jerk rule or even cross it enough to warrant a warning. It's also NOT the first time you've taken this particular position on this particular topic and been shown evidence to the contrary and I do remember that on at least on occasion you did so w/o making a pest of yourself and at least on one other occasion while making a pest of yourself. This time it's definitely the latter and I'm seriously considering recommending more than this warning if you persist or start up again.

Gozer, you did carry things too far at one point and probably should have told pcguy what you thought of his latest posts in PM and/or reported it to us moderators via PM or the Report button. Do so in the future. Seriously.

Knock it off, pcguy.

Everyone else: stop feeding the troll.

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