Forums | MacLife
You are not logged in.
#1 2006-08-29 1:56 pm
RED
Hello Fellow RED enthusiasts,
You are receiving this email because you either scanned your badge at NAB in April, or have signed up to receive more information from RED. This has been the first official letter from the RED team since that scanning and sign up process began (because we hate spam as much as you do, and there has been quite a lot of press tracking the RED project since NAB, so we figured you have a pretty good sense of what's been going on with us. Plus we've been pretty busy around here building a Camera :-)
As many of you know the IBC show in Amsterdam is just around the corner, and it looks as if we will be hitting our targets of showing the first images from the Mysterium® sensor.
For those of you attending IBC, there will be various screenings of our first 4k images at IBC in the D-Cinema Theater, on the 4K Digital projector. Show times are as follows:
Friday, September 8th
@ 16:30 (4:30pm)
@ 17:00 (5pm)
@ 17:30 (5:30pm)
Saturday, September 9th
@ 11:00 (4:30pm)
@ 11:30 (5pm)
@ 12:00 (5:30pm)
@ 12:30 (6pm)
We hope that a lot of you are planning on coming to the show in Amsterdam. For those of you not making the trek to IBC, please check the Red.com website on 9/9 for updates.
Thank you for all the continued support, enthusiasm and excitement about the RED project.
+ Ted
Ted Schilowitz
Leader of the Rebellion
Stay tuned to RED over the next few weeks...
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#2 2006-09-08 9:55 am
Re: RED
Today's the day
RED's site updated - new pictures, accessories [handheld RED Rail looks fantastic], lenses [18-85mm, fantastic]
The images may not hit the internet but reactions certainly are.
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#3 2006-09-09 3:28 pm
Re: RED
SD+ downsized about 27x from 4.5K.
Last edited by MB38 (2006-09-23 3:51 am)
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#4 2006-09-11 1:45 am
Re: RED
HOLY CRAP!
And this camera, with a VERY good lens, is cheaper than a Varicam, which shoots the lowest format of HD acceptable for broadcast. (Sorry...I will not accept HDV as HD...any day of the week)
And that watch is only $1195...I think I'll get one.
HA!
Last edited by shaman04 (2006-09-11 1:48 am)
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" -Albert Einstein
Offline
#5 2006-09-11 3:44 am
Re: RED
Jim Jannard promises to upload higher resolution images once the RED team returns from IBC.
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#6 2006-09-18 3:54 pm
Re: RED
It continues: Here is an image that should get camera dorks going... remember, that's a 4.5K camera with storage and battery... all it needs is a follow focus.
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#7 2006-09-22 2:06 am
Re: RED
Alright, there are new stills. [Best viewed at Gamma 2.2 and Adobe 1998 profile.]
For those who know cameras, take a look at the first image [of the Porsche]. Note that the hot spot on the flag in the foreground is approximately 12-14 stops over [and retaining detail beyond the pictured dynamic range]. It was shot at F4/F5.6 split.
Check that orange power cord on the right: that was not lit.
That's a 4K in the foreground. If you look on the backside of the scrim, that's effectively reading as hot as the element would from a camera perspective. That's detail you see, not clipping. Freakin' awesome.
For the girls, focus was set in front [on the hands and lighter].
Stay tuned.
Last edited by MB38 (2006-09-22 2:17 am)
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#8 2006-09-22 11:09 am
- avkills
- demyelinated brain matter
- Registered: 2001-05-09
- Posts: 7103
Re: RED
Damn that is some nice imagery. Good by Film. 
-mark
Last edited by avkills (2006-09-22 11:09 am)
Online
#9 2006-09-22 3:44 pm
Re: RED
Check out the 959 image again... I just noticed that the camera is facing directly into an open-face 4K near the car's left side mirror. Those who know current digital cinema cameras will understand how graceful that falloff to overexposure is.
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#10 2006-09-23 3:30 am
Re: RED
First public 2K Mysterium frame grab.
The girl was blowing bubble with chewing gum, this is the frame where it pops. Notice the soft, film-like hand but the instant detail of the particles of saliva from her mouth.
This was shot 4.9k at 24fps in 12-bit color, downrezzed to 4k, downrezzed again to 2k, then converted to an 8-bit color jpeg. And no dead pixel correction. The lens was a Cooke 65mm S4 lens at about F4.
An 8-bit 4K image will be posted tomorrow.
Remember, folks... This is 1/4 of the resolution of the output of a $17,500 motion picture camera. This thing is the future.
[remember to switch color profiles before viewing]
Last edited by MB38 (2006-09-23 3:51 am)
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#11 2006-09-23 3:48 am
Re: RED
Here's a very low-resolution frame, but it serves to prove a point: The candles are the only source of illumination in this shot. There were no lights of any kind. This was shot at about F2.8 and the gain was cranked in post. While it's too small to analyze the signal/noise ratio, Jim [the founder of the company and man in the image] says that the image was devoid of visible gain/noise.
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#12 2006-09-23 12:30 pm
- avkills
- demyelinated brain matter
- Registered: 2001-05-09
- Posts: 7103
Re: RED
Will someone buy me one. 
Anyway, what are they using to record the images from this thing. It has got to be some sort of high-speed disk array.
-mark
Online
#13 2006-09-23 2:15 pm
Re: RED
It has an internal 32GB or 64GB flash drive [specs haven't been nailed down]. It also connects to smaller drives [that can be mounted on the body] that go to about 160GB and can be changed faster than film magazines. For the most part, they expect you to be shooting REDCODE [27MB per second, full resolution and colorspace] vs. RAW [4:4:4, nearly a half-gig per second]. They don't want people to have to use fridge-sized drives for this camera.
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#14 2006-09-24 10:16 am
Re: RED
4K live. I don't need to say how amazing this is.
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#15 2006-09-24 11:35 am
- avkills
- demyelinated brain matter
- Registered: 2001-05-09
- Posts: 7103
Re: RED
What's the frame size for 4k (4000x4000) ?? Just curious.
-mark
Online
#16 2006-09-24 9:25 pm
Re: RED
4K = 4096 x 2304
4.5K = 4520 x 2540
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#17 2006-09-24 10:24 pm
- avkills
- demyelinated brain matter
- Registered: 2001-05-09
- Posts: 7103
Re: RED
Cool, thanks.
-mark
Online
#18 2006-09-25 4:41 am
Re: RED
RED just had a break in and a prototype camera, laptops and data were stolen.
$100k reward for information leading to the arrest of the guilty parties.
Industrial Espionage...no doubt. Just after IBC and the BIG demo.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" -Albert Einstein
Offline
#19 2006-09-25 1:54 pm
Re: RED
They actually only got away with computers, monitors and the CNC'd cutout of the camera and a few accessories. All information about the sensor itself, all of the prototype sensors and the prototype camera are safe.
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#20 2006-10-03 1:55 am
Re: RED
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#21 2006-10-09 11:42 pm
Re: RED
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
#22 2006-10-10 6:32 pm
Re: RED
In case anybody's played with that uncompressed green screen image, there's a contest going on to make the best composite.
"Overall, the results are pretty clear: Mac users might not actually be smarter than PC users, but they certainly use better English and a larger vocabulary to express more complex thinking."
Offline
