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#26 2006-10-18 5:46 pm
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
Hank Rearden wrote:
Perhaps you are correct. I rather suspect that you are. But, might not this argument be made by a ShnickyShnack writing in these forums in 2150 about Dubya?
e.g., "Certainly Bush's steps were preferable to a terrist' vicotry"
I'm having a difficult time drawing any comparison between Iraq and the events leading to the Civil War, even for the purposes of your example...
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#27 2006-10-18 6:16 pm
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
Hank Rearden wrote:
ShnickyShnack wrote:
Certainly Lincoln's steps were preferable to a Confederate victory.
Perhaps you are correct. I rather suspect that you are. But, might not this argument be made by a ShnickyShnack writing in these forums in 2150 about Dubya?
No, because the terrists don't have brilliantly-led armies at the gats of Washington D.C. Or any armies at all.
e.g., "Certainly Bush's steps were preferable to a terrist' vicotry"
Man you're stretching in your comparisons in a huge way. I see no similarities whatsoever between the Civil War and the present goings-on.
And, yup, I already said that I was off base on Reconstruction. But, the prison camps, habeus corpus, Lincoln's fairly crass use of the slavery issue for other ends, and his general laying of the foundations of the Imperial Presidency are what knock him off of my list.
It was a Civil War. There is a line, of course, and it can be debated whether he crossed it. However claims of "imperial presidency" are off-base. Power does become concentrated during wartime, there's simply no way to avoid it. The question is what happens after the shooting stops. In the event, the office of the presidency became vastly trimmed after the Civil War, and I see no reason to believe Lincoln would've tried to hold on to those powers.
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#28 2006-10-18 6:32 pm
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
bratboy wrote:
Hank Rearden wrote:
Lincoln embodies a lot of what Dubya stands for. He invented the elimination of habeus corpus, etc.
Don't you think that's a poor choice of wording?
The text of the Constitution acknowledges that habeus corpus can be suspended...
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#29 2006-10-18 7:18 pm
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
Hank Rearden wrote:
bratboy wrote:
Hank Rearden wrote:
Lincoln embodies a lot of what Dubya stands for. He invented the elimination of habeus corpus, etc.
Don't you think that's a poor choice of wording?
The text of the Constitution acknowledges that habeus corpus can be suspended...
Ahh, I see what you're saying.
That's interesting. I haven't read the whole thing yet.
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#30 2006-10-18 8:24 pm
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
Nixon
I wonder...
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#31 2006-10-18 10:54 pm
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
You Are Most Like John F. Kennedy
You live a fairy tale life that most people envy.
And while you may have a few dark secrets, few people know them.
What Modern US President Are You Most Like?
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#32 2006-10-18 11:19 pm
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
You Are Most Like Bill Clinton
No doubt, your legacy may be a little seedier than you'd like.
But even though you've done some questionable things, you're still loved by almost all.
What Modern US President Are You Most Like?
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#34 2006-10-19 2:01 am
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
Metacell wrote:
I got Clinton too. What a surprise.
I knew from the egg mcmuffin question who I was gonna get...
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#36 2006-10-19 2:53 am
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
Metacell wrote:
Funny, I picked clam chowder...wonder who that was?
JFK I would think.....
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#37 2006-10-19 5:36 am
Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
Given that the term "modern" doesn't allow much room for any decent selection, I'm not sure the quiz is of any value.
I also got GWB
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#38 2006-10-19 9:39 am
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
You are most like Zachary Taylor
You aren't qualified to fill the position that you currently do.
Your time on this earth will be short-lived.
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Whoa. That's kind of a downer.
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#39 2006-10-19 11:41 am
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
bratboy wrote:
Metacell wrote:
Funny, I picked clam chowder...wonder who that was?
JFK I would think.....
Jelly Beans got me JFK, but I think my All American upbringing and equal rights for all trumped my food.
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#40 2006-10-19 4:18 pm
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
I did a quick search for "John Kennedy favorite food" and saw "new england clam chowder" on one of the google finds.
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#41 2006-10-19 4:21 pm
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Re: Which modern US president are you most like?
Funny, I came up with "members of the secretary pool and high-class hookers."
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