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#1 2006-11-08 12:00 pm

user
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Rummy steps down!

Don't let the door hit yer ass on the way out!

No link yet. CNN just has a banner.


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Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#2 2006-11-08 12:01 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

whoa!  Jimmy Baker wins the day!

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#3 2006-11-08 12:02 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

Shoulda named it "Rummy cuts n runs".

Six years too frincken late....


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#4 2006-11-08 12:02 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

from the other thread: And rumsfeld just got voted out.  I wonder if he's exiting to avoid having to testify under oath.

Other thought: I wonder if Bush will offer the job to Lieberman, flipping the senate to the republicans again.


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#5 2006-11-08 12:06 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

Bush is on TV now, but he hasn't addressed the Rummy resignation yet.

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#6 2006-11-08 12:08 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

Gates is named.


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#7 2006-11-08 12:09 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

Probably waiting for them to rustle up a Medal Of Honor to give him first.

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#8 2006-11-08 12:11 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

resedit wrote:

Gates is named.

Hell, anybody who can run Microsoft will know how to run a war.


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#9 2006-11-08 12:12 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

The hearings to confirm ex-CIA director Gates should be "interesting."

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#10 2006-11-08 12:13 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

user wrote:

resedit wrote:

Gates is named.

Hell, anybody who can run Microsoft will know how to run a war.

Just need a reboot when things get bogged down.


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#11 2006-11-08 12:15 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

kb5zhh wrote:

from the other thread: And rumsfeld just got voted out.  I wonder if he's exiting to avoid having to testify under oath.

Other thought: I wonder if Bush will offer the job to Lieberman, flipping the senate to the republicans again.

From the other thread:  That Lieberman thing would be a smart move. 

However (and not from the other thread)... would Lieberman take it?  He'd have to carefully weigh the pros and cons.  The cons may come out ahead.


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#12 2006-11-08 12:16 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

resedit wrote:

Gates is named.

Mr. Philanthropy on the trigger end of an RPG?  I somehow doubt it.


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#13 2006-11-08 12:16 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

kb5zhh wrote:

from the other thread: And rumsfeld just got voted out.  I wonder if he's exiting to avoid having to testify under oath.

Seems to me that, as a regular joe, he's actually more in danger of having to testify.

Might have been one of the reasons he was kept on so long.


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#14 2006-11-08 12:18 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

If lieberman switched, it would indicate he was either moving to another state, or retiring.
He would not be elected again as a republican in CT.

He's not going to switch though. He is a democrat, and he is in agreement with democrats on vast majority of issues. Disagreement on one issue (Iraq) does not make him a republican any more than my disagreement with repubs on some issues make me a democrat.


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#15 2006-11-08 12:18 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

Hank Rearden wrote:

kb5zhh wrote:

from the other thread: And rumsfeld just got voted out.  I wonder if he's exiting to avoid having to testify under oath.

Other thought: I wonder if Bush will offer the job to Lieberman, flipping the senate to the republicans again.

From the other thread:  That Lieberman thing would be a smart move. 

However (and not from the other thread)... would Lieberman take it?  He'd have to carefully weigh the pros and cons.  The cons may come out ahead.

Old Shoeless could use it as a threat to keep the Dems from simply tossing him aside.

Hell, he might use the possibilty of party-switching for that, anyway.


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#16 2006-11-08 12:22 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

resedit wrote:

If lieberman switched, it would indicate he was either moving to another state, or retiring.
He would not be elected again as a republican in CT.

He's not going to switch though. He is a democrat, and he is in agreement with democrats on vast majority of issues. Disagreement on one issue (Iraq) does not make him a republican any more than my disagreement with repubs on some issues make me a democrat.

No, he's an independent. He can keep himself relevant by threatening to go all one way or the other.

They could call his bluff, though.


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#17 2006-11-08 12:25 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

He's stated before the primaries were over that if he ran as an independent, he would identify with dems in Washington. He is a democrat. He will be listed as a democrat in the Senate (as he is now).


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#18 2006-11-08 12:29 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

resedit wrote:

He's stated before the primaries were over that if he ran as an independent, he would identify with dems in Washington. He is a democrat. He will be listed as a democrat in the Senate (as he is now).

So it's going to be just hugs and kisses all around?

How do you know how Joe's going to be listed in the Senate?


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#19 2006-11-08 12:34 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

By the way, Democrats have ALREADY delivered on their promise of "Change in Washington" by way of forcing this crucial resignation.

DISCUSS

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#20 2006-11-08 12:36 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

user wrote:

resedit wrote:

He's stated before the primaries were over that if he ran as an independent, he would identify with dems in Washington. He is a democrat. He will be listed as a democrat in the Senate (as he is now).

So it's going to be just hugs and kisses all around?

How do you know how Joe's going to be listed in the Senate?

He's stated he is going to the Democrat caucus. Back in 2000 when a republican switched sides - guess what happened. He was no longer listed as republican, he was listed as democrat. Not only that, but majority power changed, etc.

He's going to join with the democrat caucus - and they (dems) would be stupid to not let him, as every seat counts - not just for now, but for 2008 as well. Yes, the dems will be extremely supportive of him.


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#21 2006-11-08 12:38 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

bedstuy wrote:

By the way, Democrats have ALREADY delivered on their promise of "Change in Washington" by way of forcing this crucial resignation.

DISCUSS

They didn't force it. It would have been bad for Bush not to do it, but if Bush decided to keep him - dems couldn't have done anything about it.

Oh - with your very literal definition of change, they deliver on a "Change in Washington" just by being elected.


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#22 2006-11-08 12:39 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

bedstuy wrote:

By the way, Democrats have ALREADY delivered on their promise of "Change in Washington" by way of forcing this crucial resignation.

DISCUSS

This really is damage control by the Bush admin. Didn't Blair have to do something similar?


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#23 2006-11-08 12:43 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

bedstuy wrote:

By the way, Democrats have ALREADY delivered on their promise of "Change in Washington" by way of forcing this crucial resignation.

DISCUSS

Yes.  They were SO proactive on that for the past three years.  Its just fantastic to see them finish the job that  they'd been working at SO hard.

hmm


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#24 2006-11-08 12:49 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

I can't say I'm sorry to see him go.

shrug


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#25 2006-11-08 12:50 pm

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Re: Rummy steps down!

Woohoo! Change already, nice.


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