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#26 2006-11-19 1:05 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

musicalmac wrote:

It's ok, supergoo. I heard it, too, and I also thought it was sweet.

And I like Rush. toadkiller, if you've never made a mistake in your life, go ahead and bash, but if you're human (which I'm sure you are)... shut up.

Well, if I get fat and/or use drugs I'd lose my job.  So, those are two mistakes I don't make anyhow.

Rush is a tool and a hypocrite.


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#27 2006-11-19 1:15 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

Czachorski wrote:

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There are some people you don't want endorsing your products.  Pedophiles. Rapists.  Rush Limbaugh. 

shrug

Now your stooping.  His hypocritical actions are bad enough on their own - do you have to drop it down a notch like that and ruin your own credibility?

You're saying you do want pedophiles and rapists doing advertisements?

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#28 2006-11-19 2:07 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

oatmeal wrote:

Czachorski wrote:

oatmeal wrote:

There are some people you don't want endorsing your products.  Pedophiles. Rapists.  Rush Limbaugh. 

shrug

Now your stooping.  His hypocritical actions are bad enough on their own - do you have to drop it down a notch like that and ruin your own credibility?

You're saying you do want pedophiles and rapists doing advertisements?

Ok, stoop some more, if you must.  Put words into my mouth that you know to be wrong.   Just keep digging deeper and deeper.  You are only demeaning yourself.

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#29 2006-11-19 6:26 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

Czachorski wrote:

oatmeal wrote:

Czachorski wrote:


Now your stooping.  His hypocritical actions are bad enough on their own - do you have to drop it down a notch like that and ruin your own credibility?

You're saying you do want pedophiles and rapists doing advertisements?

Ok, stoop some more, if you must.  Put words into my mouth that you know to be wrong.   Just keep digging deeper and deeper.  You are only demeaning yourself.

Why do you hate America?

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#30 2006-11-19 6:28 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

Enough already. Mods, please kick this to where it belongs.


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#31 2006-11-19 6:41 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

I see Al Jazeera uses Macs
Apple computer ownership should require an approved application before purchase.

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#32 2006-11-19 6:45 pm

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bloomsday wrote:

I see Al Jazeera uses Macs
Apple computer ownership should require an approved application before purchase.

Hmmm...

Al Jazeera uses Macs.  Rush uses Macs.

Al Jazera supports terrorism.  Rush... eek

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#33 2006-11-19 7:26 pm

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Al Jazeera is a respected news organization.

For the Middle East, where people are used to completely unfree, state-controlled TV stations, it's quite revolutionary.

It's far more balanced and liberal-minded than pretty much anything else in the Middle Eastern market.

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#34 2006-11-19 7:32 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

oatmeal wrote:

Czachorski wrote:

oatmeal wrote:


You're saying you do want pedophiles and rapists doing advertisements?

Ok, stoop some more, if you must.  Put words into my mouth that you know to be wrong.   Just keep digging deeper and deeper.  You are only demeaning yourself.

Why do you hate America?

hmm  Ok - I get you.


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#35 2006-11-19 7:39 pm

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smile Glad to hear it. 

(Sorry I was so unclear 'till then. smile )

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#36 2006-11-19 11:11 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

oatmeal wrote:

There are some people you don't want endorsing your products.  Pedophiles. Rapists.  Rush Limbaugh. 

shrug

How dare you equate Rush Limbaugh with rapists and pedophiles. Heroin addicts, narcissists, bigots ... but not rapists.  And that Viagra was for his blood pressure, altitude sickness, or some sort of boner powered iPod charger. I think Kensington makes those. It has nothing to with pedophilia in the Dominican Republic.

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#37 2006-11-19 11:46 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

after-life wrote:

Al Jazeera is a respected news organization.

For the Middle East, where people are used to completely unfree, state-controlled TV stations, it's quite revolutionary.

It's far more balanced and liberal-minded than pretty much anything else in the Middle Eastern market.

Possibly a significant portion of the Western market as well, even here in the US.

That said, this is slightly Minithinky and I will toss it there in the morning if it remains so.

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#38 2006-11-20 4:40 am

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ConnertheCat wrote:

If I recall, Apple does all it can to tell Rush to not promote Apple as much as possible.

I doubt it.

I know his opinion of corporate Apple isn't very high.

I remember back in the 90s - he live on the air called microsoft support and asked them to assist him in removing Internet Explorer from a PC.

After a big long process, he simply said (to the MS tech guy) - "On my mac, I can uninstall it by dragging it to the trash. Why is so hard on Windows?"

It was hilarious.


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#39 2006-11-20 6:35 am

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Re: Rush and iMac

Aqua OS X wrote:

oatmeal wrote:

There are some people you don't want endorsing your products.  Pedophiles. Rapists.  Rush Limbaugh. 

shrug

How dare you equate Rush Limbaugh with rapists and pedophiles. Heroin addicts, narcissists, bigots ...

If you really believe what you wrote, it tells a lot about yourself that you can't see the difference.


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#40 2006-11-20 7:09 am

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Re: Rush and iMac

This is getting mini thinkish - but I agree.

Rush is a political talk show host. What does is not a crime. He may be an smurf, but much of that is part of the act. His political view and philosophy may be offensive to some, the fact that he illegally obtained drugs he got addicted while previously taking them under prescription may be offensive to some, but none of that compares to rape and pedophilia.

Rape and pedophilia are wrong no matter who the hell you are, and they are NOT victimless crimes in the slightest. The drug abuse that Rush took part in was wrong, but it only harmed himself.

Political viewpoints - it's fine to disagree with them, but the right to have opposing political views, and even to be an smurf while promoting your view, must be protected or our society is not free.


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#41 2006-11-20 7:42 am

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Re: Rush and iMac

Id just like to make the quick point that when someone makes a thread in circuit board thats either asking for help on something, or is slightly out of bounds for this board, it takes about 10 minutes for a mod to bump it where it goes. This one has been going on for some time and is so far into minithink territory (and away from the original post saying Rush, who has the LARGEST radio talk show in the US (at least) is giving apple free publicity.


Assuming Air America radio was on the air, and assuming people listened to it..if Al Franken or one of the other hosts had sat there and had a chat with a caller about apple and how much he likes them, and someone posted about it here,  would you all be talking about what a smurf he is or would the thread have recieved a few replies, and then dies or been moved?


Just as a little extra, a guy called rush the other day talking about a business he was doing or going to do and hwo he was looking forward to getting a 17" macbookpro that he would need, and rush asked him how much he had saved up, and they chatted about the price for a while and rush decided to give the guy a small tech job to do for the EIB network so the guy would be able to EARN the macbookpro. I thought that was pretty cool, and a lot better than just giving one away.


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#42 2006-11-20 10:58 am

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Re: Rush and iMac

LOL. 

I can't be the only one who finds the hypocrite/angry/bigot comments about Rush hilarious, can I?  Talk about irony...


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#43 2006-11-20 11:59 am

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Re: Rush and iMac

musicalmac wrote:

It's ok, supergoo. I heard it, too, and I also thought it was sweet.

And I like Rush. toadkiller, if you've never made a mistake in your life, go ahead and bash, but if you're human (which I'm sure you are)... shut up.

He said that "all druggies should be imprisoned". He is an ass-hole hypercritical on every level.


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#44 2006-11-20 12:12 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

Czachorski wrote:

Aqua OS X wrote:

oatmeal wrote:

There are some people you don't want endorsing your products.  Pedophiles. Rapists.  Rush Limbaugh. 

shrug

How dare you equate Rush Limbaugh with rapists and pedophiles. Heroin addicts, narcissists, bigots ... but not rapists

If you really believe what you wrote, it tells a lot about yourself that you can't see the difference.

To quote Lewis Black, it's the difference between "smurfy smurfy smurfy" and "stinky farty smelly."

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#45 2006-11-20 12:20 pm

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wellfleation wrote:

He said that "all druggies should be imprisoned". He is an ass-hole hypercritical on every level.

I agree with part of what you wrote, but again, if what he did is so offensive, then why the need to pile-on comments that only detract from your otherwise powerful and correct message?  The hypochrite "on every level" - is that needed or true?  He is a hypochrite regarding his comments on drug abuse, but does that mean that he is on everything he talks about (every level)?  I doubt it.  I would bet the he beleives and practices personally most of what he preaches.  You may disagree with him on every level - so state that - but that is different, no need to exaggerate when the point is so strong to begin with.

I would like to see 2 things:  people take personal accountability for their actions, and for people to react to that personal accountability on the same level it deserves.  I think the current discourse in this country is too little personal accountability, and that has led to an over-correction on the other side of exaggerating and taking the accusations to a higher level than they deserve to lash-out for the lack of personal accountability.

I think that is the problem with Bush, Rumsfeld, Clinton, Kerry, and just about all of our leaders today.  Bush on the war - please take personal accountabilty:  we screwed up, it was my fault, and lets work together to fix it:  but he is not a terrorist, he does not hate america and he did not screw things up on purpose.  Both sides need to do better.  The same with Kerry's comments a few weeks back:  I screwed up, it was a joke that went bad, and never meant to demean our military, but it was just a joke gone bad, he doesn't really think our military is uneducated rejects and such statements do not reflect his stance on the war. 

In both examples, both sides need to improve their discourse, and then we all will come out to a better place in this country.  There is blame on both sides - just as much for those who pile onto the issues with exaggerations, as those who screwed up and failed to take accountabilty.  So if I seem like an smurf for calling you out on the piling on of extra things that are not warranted, it is only because I am sick of seeing this from our leaders, and I think if we want to change the discourse in this country, we have to make it clear that such behavior is unacceptable and the best way to do that is to start with ourselves and not wait for our crummy leadership to do it.


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#46 2006-11-20 12:36 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

wellfleation wrote:

He said that "all druggies should be imprisoned".

Source please.






Didn't think so.


Anyways...

I heard the first part of the conversation on the radio. He was going to continue the conversation after the top of the hour break but I had to do some stuff and didn't hear it. What I did hear was that the caller (a PC tech) asked how Rush got started on Macs. Rush told him that it was back in the pre-windows days. His boss at the time showed him a Mac and compared to what he had to do on DOS to accomplish the same thing, the Mac was the clear choice. He's mentioned several times on the air about his Mac preference.

I think Apple is missing out on a huge opportunity. Rush's show reaches 20 million people each week, mostly conservatives. Judging by most responses in this forum, there aren't many conservatives who use Macs. It's an untapped market with a strong leading role model with a lot of influence. I mean seriously, how many "Pro" stories does Apple feature on their website about these obscure little companies that use Macs. Here is a nationally known personality who runs a live webcam to millions of people with his MacPro and his 30inch Cinema display seen in front of him. He uses a custom software solution that gives him live text transcripts of the callers because of his hearing loss. Everything about his show his powered by Macs.

The only reason Apple won't advertise with him is for political reasons. I think that is a bad business decision.


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#47 2006-11-20 12:45 pm

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pastor macman wrote:

The only reason Apple won't advertise with him is for political reasons. I think that is a bad business decision.

100% totally agree.


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#48 2006-11-20 1:04 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

Czachorski wrote:

wellfleation wrote:

He said that "all druggies should be imprisoned". He is an ass-hole hypercritical on every level.

I agree with part of what you wrote, but again, if what he did is so offensive, then why the need to pile-on comments that only detract from your otherwise powerful and correct message?  The hypochrite "on every level" - is that needed or true?  He is a hypochrite regarding his comments on drug abuse, but does that mean that he is on everything he talks about (every level)?

<cough>
http://mediamatters.org/items/200611090005

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#49 2006-11-20 1:22 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

Aqua OS X wrote:

Czachorski wrote:

wellfleation wrote:

He said that "all druggies should be imprisoned". He is an ass-hole hypercritical on every level.

I agree with part of what you wrote, but again, if what he did is so offensive, then why the need to pile-on comments that only detract from your otherwise powerful and correct message?  The hypochrite "on every level" - is that needed or true?  He is a hypochrite regarding his comments on drug abuse, but does that mean that he is on everything he talks about (every level)?

<cough>
http://mediamatters.org/items/200611090005

A lot of conservatives are frustrated with the president and congress for moving away from traditionally conservative issue.  This makes Rush a hypochrite exacty how?


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#50 2006-11-20 1:39 pm

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Re: Rush and iMac

pastor macman wrote:

wellfleation wrote:

He said that "all druggies should be imprisoned".

Source please.

Source

pastor macman wrote:

Didn't think so.

Nope, you are wrong

A two second google search reveals you are wrong. Now get ready for your spanking kid.

Rush wrote:

"What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use, too many whites are getting away with drug sales, too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too." http://www.takebackthemedia.com/gophotwrush.html

-- Rush Limbaugh. October 5, 1995 show transcript.


Rush wrote:

"Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be
convicted and they ought to be sent up." http://www.takebackthemedia.com/gophotwrush.html

-- Rush Limbaugh. October 5, 1995 show transcript.

Rush wrote:

"It's kind of like sentencing. A lot of people say that we have a heavy sentence for this crime and a light sentence for another crime, and what we ought to do is reduce the heavy sentence so it's more in line with the other. Wrong. In most cases we ought to increase the light sentence and make it compatible with the heavy sentence, and be serious about punishment because we are becoming too tolerant as a society, folks, especially of crime, in too many parts of the country."

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-- Rush Limbaugh. October 5, 1995 show transcript.   

This is all with audio, if you prefer to get it straight from the idiot’s blowhard mouth (see links).

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