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#26 2006-12-01 1:52 pm

after-life
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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

Oh please. There are plenty of Jews in Congress. They don't have to swear on a book they don't believe in, do they?

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#27 2006-12-01 2:15 pm

bedstuy
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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

after-life wrote:

Oh please. There are plenty of Jews in Congress. They don't have to swear on a book they don't believe in, do they?

Well, that's a given because Jews control the world.

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#28 2006-12-01 2:45 pm

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

gas huffer wrote:

I once had to testify in court, and I refused to swear upon a bible and was properly accomodated.

If I'm ever called upon to testify in court, I will claim to worship tits.


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#29 2006-12-01 5:58 pm

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

punkgeek wrote:

Why would (or should) a Muslim swear on the Bible? It's not part of his belief system...

It kind of is.


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#30 2006-12-01 6:24 pm

[Tycho?]
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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

How is it that anybody, anywhere, ever listens to a man so incredibly stupid? Its really quite remarkable.


I could bore you with a philosophical tirade about freedom and tyranny, or try and explain to you what new horizons are suddenly open to me, but I doubt you would understand and if you did it might frighten you.  That amuses me.

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#31 2006-12-01 6:51 pm

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

[Tycho?] wrote:

How is it that anybody, anywhere, ever listens to a man so incredibly stupid? Its really quite remarkable.

They listen so they can make fun of stupid smurf people like that say.


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#32 2006-12-04 8:43 am

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

When I was sworn in to the Army, and took my commision, I did not do so upon a bible, or any religious tome. I was asked to raise my right hand, and repeat the oath of office. Must have been official, I got paid for it.


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#33 2006-12-04 8:49 am

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

I may be up for grand jury duty next year.

I wonder if you have to oath for that? I suppose I could put my hand on a bible but it would have no signifigance for me.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#34 2006-12-04 10:32 am

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

Even a layman can read the constitution and know that there is no case and no court needed to decide anything here. Might be nice though to put idiots like these in jail for criminal stupidity. Better yet, make it a capital offense.


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#35 2006-12-04 10:59 am

user
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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

Well, I would have thought that "One Nation Under God" as a national motto was a really obvious violation of the Constitution, but, apparently I'm wrong.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#36 2006-12-04 11:52 am

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

Got to love mccarthyism.


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#37 2006-12-04 12:00 pm

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

user wrote:

Well, I would have thought that "One Nation Under God" as a national motto was a really obvious violation of the Constitution, but, apparently I'm wrong.

It's obviously a violation of the original author's intention.


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#38 2006-12-04 12:29 pm

user
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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

"Under God" in the Pledge sucks, too, but I think the whole idea of a "pledge" sucks even harder.


Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.

Unless you become as little children, there's no way you will believe this crap.

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#39 2006-12-04 8:07 pm

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

jondaris wrote:

gas huffer wrote:

I once had to testify in court, and I refused to swear upon a bible and was properly accomodated.

If I'm ever called upon to testify in court, I will claim to worship tits.

now that's thinking outside the box! (don't even go there wink )


...and watch out for the flying meat!

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#40 2006-12-05 12:30 am

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

So if a Pastafarian takes office, does s/he swear on a plate of linguini?


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#41 2006-12-05 2:16 am

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

robco wrote:

So if a Pastafarian takes office, does s/he swear on a plate of linguini?

Nah, on a copy of Treasure Island, ya scurry knave!


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"I think the question now is not whether you went to Vietnam or whether you didn't, whether you fought in the war or fought against the war. I think the only question is whether we can find a president smart enough never to make a mistake like that again"--Molly Ivins, way back in 1992

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#42 2006-12-05 6:47 am

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

Dennis Prager and others are making noise about it because it gets them listeners, listeners gets them ratings, rating keep their job.

Welcome to capitalism.


In her right hand Jenny held the Bible of her mother
Jenny had a pistol in the other
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#43 2006-12-05 9:37 am

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

Actually, they swear all the incoming congressmen inmasse. They all stand around like a bunch of military recruits, raise their right hand, and take the oath of office. They can swear on whatever they wish.


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#44 2006-12-05 9:40 am

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

resedit wrote:

Dennis Prager and others are making noise about it because it gets them listeners, listeners gets them ratings, rating keep their job.

Welcome to capitalism.

So, no opinion on whether or not this is sleazy "journalism"?


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#45 2006-12-05 9:42 am

sturner
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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

iBubba wrote:

resedit wrote:

Dennis Prager and others are making noise about it because it gets them listeners, listeners gets them ratings, rating keep their job.

Welcome to capitalism.

So, no opinion on whether or not this is sleazy "journalism"?

Yellow press to be certain. Jingoism.


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There are 3 types of people, those who can count and those who can't.
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#46 2006-12-05 11:00 pm

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

resedit wrote:

Dennis Prager and others are making noise about it because it gets them listeners, listeners gets them ratings, rating keep their job.

Welcome to capitalism.

dingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingding

That's what I've been saying about Ann Coulter and Michael Moore all the time!


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#47 2006-12-05 11:10 pm

resedit
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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

sturner wrote:

When I was sworn in to the Army, and took my commision, I did not do so upon a bible, or any religious tome. I was asked to raise my right hand, and repeat the oath of office. Must have been official, I got paid for it.

//Laughs as sturner gets certified letter from the army asking for their money back ...


In her right hand Jenny held the Bible of her mother
Jenny had a pistol in the other
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#48 2006-12-05 11:20 pm

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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

Pithecanthropus wrote:

resedit wrote:

Dennis Prager and others are making noise about it because it gets them listeners, listeners gets them ratings, rating keep their job.

Welcome to capitalism.

dingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingdingding

That's what I've been saying about Ann Coulter and Michael Moore all the time!

Does whistling past graveyards make you feel better too?
The deliberate niavity of that sort of ever so contrived cynicism is really sad in the extent of its denial.
Do you really think that no one actually believes awfull, things sincerely?

I see this type of remark quite alot the last few years and it makes me wonder. Has our materialism lead us to such a poverty stricken world view that we have come to believe no one believes anything anymore?
Hate someone for the beliefs they declare to hold, not the greed you hope is their real motivation.


"and it's not surprising that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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#49 2006-12-05 11:50 pm

sturner
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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

nah, res, they got their money worth. My hearing is shot, and I get the chills whenever the wind blows cold from being wet and cold a lot.

Besides, they won't pay medical for the hearing loss, and I won't be collecting retirement pay from the govt.


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There are 3 types of people, those who can count and those who can't.
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#50 2006-12-06 12:38 am

jerwin
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Re: New Rep taking oath on Koran is worse than 9-11

Pariah wrote:

I see this type of remark quite alot the last few years and it makes me wonder. Has our materialism lead us to such a poverty stricken world view that we have come to believe no one believes anything anymore?
Hate someone for the beliefs they declare to hold, not the greed you hope is their real motivation.

Is it really materialism?

A frequent liberal critique of the Soviet Union used to be that their scientific output was filtered by an ideological bias-- as if the establishment first checked whether the scientist was a good communist, and whether the experimental results were consistent with Marxist thought. (I relieved much boredom wandering the stacks of my college library, so please forgive me if the argument seems shallow.) It seems to me that a materialist would be concerned fist and foremost with the results themselves, and not any imaginary ideological defects that might have biased these results.


Some subjects actually enjoy pain, and withhold information they might otherwise have divulged in order to be punished.
Central Intelligence Agency. (1983). Human Resource Exploitation Training Manual

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