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#26 2007-01-12 4:56 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

TheFriedlander wrote:

Yet, I wish they would add some support for sharing from iTunes, because while we have six other computers in the house running Windows XP, all my media is on my mac.

Have your tried ---> http://www.nullriver.com/index/products/connect360

It probably doesn't allow you to play Fairplay protected iTMS stuff but . . .

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#27 2007-01-12 6:40 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

ConnertheCat wrote:

Wow.  Just wow. nope

At 1/4 the capacity and with both using the same DRM scheme, what does HD-DVD have on Blu-ray besides porn?

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#28 2007-01-12 6:53 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Cheaper, MS backed. shrug


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#29 2007-01-12 9:04 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Thrica wrote:

ConnertheCat wrote:

Wow.  Just wow. nope

At 1/4 the capacity and with both using the same DRM scheme, what does HD-DVD have on Blu-ray besides porn?

The total lack of Sony Ego.


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#30 2007-01-13 12:39 am

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Ego doesn't make it look any worse on the TV. Stunted capacity does. shrug They're both saturated with movie industry ego anyway, so Sony's doesn't make much of a difference to me.

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#31 2007-01-13 3:46 am

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Indeed

Of course this will all probably be moot a couple years down the road when HVD (Holographic Versatile Disk), Tapestry Media, and/or PCD (Protein Coated Disk) will be competing to replace whatever survives this round of the format wars.

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#32 2007-01-13 8:13 am

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Thrica wrote:

Ego doesn't make it look any worse on the TV. Stunted capacity does. shrug They're both saturated with movie industry ego anyway, so Sony's doesn't make much of a difference to me.

I don't know, I just like the companies that I buy products from to be, I don't know - moral.  Sony has shown on numerous occasions this is not the case - far more then any other company that I can think of.


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#33 2007-01-13 10:06 am

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Actually I like them both and use both of their products daily. I can't understand how people could hate companies/manufacturers with such a passion.

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#34 2007-01-13 10:10 am

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Goldfingiz wrote:

Actually I like them both and use both of their products daily. I can't understand how people could hate companies/manufacturers with such a passion.

One word:  Word.

That's a fine example of how I can hate some of the manufacturers with such a passion.


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#35 2007-01-13 10:30 am

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

I can dislike each and I don't feel like putting a relative value on that dislike.
I know from past history that Sony backed formats are a bad bet and I think it is a damn shame that Apple chose to back the wrong horse but they did. No getting around it, Jobs screwed the pooch on this one.

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#36 2007-01-13 10:56 am

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Pariah wrote:

… I think it is a damn shame that Apple chose to back the wrong horse but they did. No getting around it, Jobs screwed the pooch on this one.

Agreed.


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#37 2007-01-13 12:14 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

I've hated sony since before it was cool to hate sony.  as for Microsoft, well, I don't like microsoft.

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#38 2007-01-13 2:04 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Pariah wrote:

I think it is a damn shame that Apple chose to back the wrong horse but they did. No getting around it, Jobs screwed the pooch on this one.

Sounds like business as usual, they have been doing that since the original 68k processor.

Don't sweat it though cause Steve will just announce at a keynote a couple of years down the road that the mac he has been using contains an HDDVD drive and you'll have reason to upgrade wink


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#39 2007-01-13 8:50 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Goldfingiz wrote:

Actually I like them both and use both of their products daily. I can't understand how people could hate companies/manufacturers with such a passion.

Hate is not strong enough a word. Forget these media, computer companies.  They have not killed anyone with their products as far as i know.  However,  pharmaceutical companies have ACTUALLY KILLED  people with their drugs.  If pharmaceuticals were real persons, they'd poison their mothers to make a buck. EVIL ,  just plain evil.


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#40 2007-01-13 9:33 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Farmsex wrote:

Goldfingiz wrote:

Actually I like them both and use both of their products daily. I can't understand how people could hate companies/manufacturers with such a passion.

Hate is not strong enough a word. Forget these media, computer companies.  They have not killed anyone with their products as far as i know.  However,  pharmaceutical companies have ACTUALLY KILLED  people with their drugs.  If pharmaceuticals were real persons, they'd poison their mothers to make a buck. EVIL ,  just plain evil.

The EPA standards for drinking water were set to for a mortality rate of something like 1 person in 10 million who drink the water for 50 years.  Zero deaths is not technically feasible in just about all areas.  There are risks in everything. 

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#41 2007-01-13 9:56 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

HackerJax wrote:

Sounds like business as usual, they have been doing that since the original 68k processor.

That is kind of harsh. From an purely engineering standpoint the 680xx was a far better chip than what Intel had. For that matter, so is the PowerPC. But whatever, it doesn't really matter anymore.

Sony backed formats fail, maybe on the consumer side they do, but not on the pro side. BetacamSP has been the mainstay of professional video for a long long time, and people still use it.

Blu-ray will probably have more backing from video professionals.

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#42 2007-01-13 11:20 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

avkills wrote:

HackerJax wrote:

Sounds like business as usual, they have been doing that since the original 68k processor.

That is kind of harsh. From an purely engineering standpoint the 680xx was a far better chip than what Intel had. For that matter, so is the PowerPC. But whatever, it doesn't really matter anymore.

Agreed. I meant to add to my post that Apple usually picks the better technology from a purely technical standpoint.  They bomb on picking the ones that win long term in the market and just add the tech later or transition on over at some point.

No big deal and they are still in business so its all worked out.

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#43 2007-01-13 11:41 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Farmsex wrote:

They have not killed anyone with their products as far as i know.

Sony PS3 Rush, anyone?

I really don't like either of them, and try to avoid buying their products at all (many, many, cheaper, and better alternatives out there... But they defenitaly aren't on the top of my list, just those two we see more in the mainstream.

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#44 2007-01-14 12:56 am

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

HackerJax wrote:

avkills wrote:

HackerJax wrote:

Sounds like business as usual, they have been doing that since the original 68k processor.

That is kind of harsh. From an purely engineering standpoint the 680xx was a far better chip than what Intel had. For that matter, so is the PowerPC. But whatever, it doesn't really matter anymore.

Agreed. I meant to add to my post that Apple usually picks the better technology from a purely technical standpoint.  They bomb on picking the ones that win long term in the market and just add the tech later or transition on over at some point.

No big deal and they are still in business so its all worked out.

Fair enough. Woz actually mentions Steve's ability to pick future tech in his new book, iWoz.

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#45 2007-01-17 8:19 am

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

Corelogik wrote:

They are both evil!

All large corporations are evil including Apple, deal with it

and Sony I do not hate MS, although they have been irritating me more lately


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#46 2007-01-17 1:14 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

And now that Toshiba has 51 gig HD-DVDs, it looks like Blu-Ray officially has no chance of winning. shrug

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#47 2007-01-17 2:07 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

HackerJax wrote:

Pariah wrote:

I think it is a damn shame that Apple chose to back the wrong horse but they did. No getting around it, Jobs screwed the pooch on this one.

Sounds like business as usual, they have been doing that since the original 68k processor.

Don't sweat it though cause Steve will just announce at a keynote a couple of years down the road that the mac he has been using contains an HDDVD drive and you'll have reason to upgrade wink

He'd actually more likely admit that computers that already shipped had an hddvd drive and they'll sell you an updater that activates it.

Anyway, Jobs did push USB (remove of the floppy is arguable).

But yeah, Apple seems to have a knack for picking losing tech sometimes (DVD-RAM over Combo drives).


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#48 2007-01-17 2:25 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

NAG wrote:

HackerJax wrote:

Pariah wrote:

I think it is a damn shame that Apple chose to back the wrong horse but they did. No getting around it, Jobs screwed the pooch on this one.

Sounds like business as usual, they have been doing that since the original 68k processor.

Don't sweat it though cause Steve will just announce at a keynote a couple of years down the road that the mac he has been using contains an HDDVD drive and you'll have reason to upgrade wink

He'd actually more likely admit that computers that already shipped had an hddvd drive and they'll sell you an updater that activates it.

Anyway, Jobs did push USB (remove of the floppy is arguable).

But yeah, Apple seems to have a knack for picking losing tech sometimes (DVD-RAM over Combo drives).

WEll good point on the USB.

Ok guys I stand corrected, apple dosen't always pick the dud technologies the first time out up


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#49 2007-01-17 8:18 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

HackerJax wrote:

NAG wrote:

HackerJax wrote:


Sounds like business as usual, they have been doing that since the original 68k processor.

Don't sweat it though cause Steve will just announce at a keynote a couple of years down the road that the mac he has been using contains an HDDVD drive and you'll have reason to upgrade wink

He'd actually more likely admit that computers that already shipped had an hddvd drive and they'll sell you an updater that activates it.

Anyway, Jobs did push USB (remove of the floppy is arguable).

But yeah, Apple seems to have a knack for picking losing tech sometimes (DVD-RAM over Combo drives).

WEll good point on the USB.

Ok guys I stand corrected, apple dosen't always pick the dud technologies the first time out up

Actually the USB thing is another example of Jobs getting it wrong. He pushed hard for an immature standard (USB 1.1) then resisted adopting the mature standard: USB2. So Macs were stuck with USB 1.1 ports a couple of years after most PCs had USB2. Ya, we had Firewire but there was no reason besides simple bloody minded stubbornness holding USB2 back.
As was the case with the floppy removal: Being too early is the same thing as being wrong.


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#50 2007-01-17 9:43 pm

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Re: Sony vs Microsoft: who do you hate more?

He actually pushed out USB 1.0. Man, that was annoying. 1.1 didn't arrive until the Slot-load iMacs.


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