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Chickenhawk wrote:

Capitalist pigs?
Say, are you a member of the COMMUNIST party?

*Gasp* Why I never......

I think outsourcing our jobs is a bigger problem.  The "illegal immigration epidemic" which we're supposed to poop our pants about is just a smoke screen for that.  Those of us with genitalia more than 5" aren't scared and see thru the b.s.  (How many thousands of applications for bussing tables are our Ivy grads being turned down from anyway?)

Vindo310 wrote:

Nafta might benefit the ruling class of Mexico but it in no way benefits the workers. And at the same time it doesn't benefit the workers in America. It is a lose lose situation for all workers. When Chinese crops get imported to Mexico or the US the Mexican farmer and the US farmer can't compete with China's non-environmental law and non-labor law cheap products.

It's called globalization and it's not going to stop.

Vindo310 wrote:

When the US government buys Mexican oil fields that in Mexico's Constitution belong to the indigenous of the area that does not benefit Mexicans. By signing into the WTO you forfeit your countries constitutional or local laws for that of some international policy. They might hire some Mexicans and pay them slave wages to work in the oil field but the gross of the profit goes to US corporations. This in turn takes the natural resources of the country away from the people and the workers of the country.

Then Mexico shouldn't have joined WTO.  If Mexico doesn't have the capital or expertise to develop local resources, then at least they can get some benefit by bringing in outside companies.  I'm also willing to be that it isn't just US corporations.

Vindo310 wrote:

Likewise when an Arab company buys the security of an American port that does not help the workers in the US. smurf Nafta and buy American if you are a patriot. If you claim to be American and you fly your flag high(that was made in China) you are nothing but a fool.

That deal was nixed.  Port security is a national security issue.  Otherwise, many foreign companies operate in the US and sell goods and services here.  Again, globalization.  I'll buy American - if it's the best product or service.  I won't buy an American made car however, they're crap.

Vindo310 wrote:

I know that Mexico is corrupt. That corruption has come from being puppets of the US for so long. The government of Mexico is Americas little lap dog and all these racists here do is hate on the people that live there. I wish that Mexico would stop being controlled by the US and join the rest of Latin America that is currently assembling a Latin American Union to have more power and control in the world.

So once again it's Uncle Sam's fault?  Entirely?  That's bullsmurf.  People don't hate Mexico.  They don't like the idea of Mexicans streaming into the US illegally.  If the situation were reversed and a bunch of Americans came to Mexico and didn't speak the language and didn't adapt to the culture, that would probably create some issues in Mexico (incidentally, the immigration rules of the US are far more generous than those of Mexico).

The US has the largest market for goods and services, has a lot of resources - natural resources, capital and human capital and is the most populous in the Americas.  So of course the US is going to have greater influence.  Even businesses founded in Mexico and run by Mexicans would probably want to be able to sell products in the US and not be penalized for it - this is how NAFTA benefits Mexico.

If Mexican workers are that unhappy with jobs at US companies, they should unionize and demand higher wages.  Just bear in mind that this could make Mexican labor less attractive to foreign companies.

But if Mexico wants to do more with other Latin American nations, that's great.  But I doubt any will ignore the US and Canada completely.

Vindo310 wrote:

Thankfully revolution is happening in Mexico and hopefully soon they will break off and stop the pillaging that is happening to their country. Oaxaca  is going through major revolution right now and I support it fully.

As long as it isn't socialist revolution.  Face it, the whole Communist thing didn't work out in the USSR or Cuba.  I do hope the people will elect new government leaders who will stamp out the corruption.  I hope they enact new laws to allow greater business and job growth in Mexico so people don't have to come into the US illegally.  But isolationism with respect to commercial and business interests just doesn't fly too well in today's world.  Mexico expanding its market and becoming a more equal trading partner would benefit the US and Mexico.

wow... that's so awesome

Vindo310 wrote:

Robert B. wrote:

You'll like this

That crazy woman wrote:

Mexico interferes in Americas internal affairs

I like her backwards take on reality. It is really sad because she is a lesbian and a woman. She should be against racism like how the same people that are against racism are also against sexism. She is just playing into a group that sees her as a dike. Kinda sad that she could let herself down like that.

I hesitate to inform you that homosexuality does not infuse one necessarily with any sort of elevated mindset.

robco wrote:

It's called globalization and it's not going to stop.

It will stop one way or another. The cheaper everything gets the less people get paid and thus the less people can spend. Capitalism is a downward spiral and so is the so called "free trade". The people who are getting exploited by it are lashing back from all over the world in solidarity. The people will win in the end. The workers will only take it up the backside for so long before they revolt.

http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/ag … index1.htm

Then Mexico shouldn't have joined WTO.  If Mexico doesn't have the capital or expertise to develop local resources, then at least they can get some benefit by bringing in outside companies.  I'm also willing to be that it isn't just US corporations.

The Mexican people didn't join the WTO just like the American people didn't ask president Bush to bomb Iraq. Just like the American people didn't ask Kennedy to kill little Vietnamese children. And I am not trying to imply that the US is the only country that has companies in Mexico that are raping it but we are talking about the US-Mexico border.

So once again it's Uncle Sam's fault?  Entirely?  That's bullsmurf.  People don't hate Mexico.  They don't like the idea of Mexicans streaming into the US illegally.  If the situation were reversed and a bunch of Americans came to Mexico and didn't speak the language and didn't adapt to the culture, that would probably create some issues in Mexico (incidentally, the immigration rules of the US are far more generous than those of Mexico).

Actually when Mexico and America were both new Mexico allowed Americans from the 13 colonies to come to Mexico at will. Saying that the US has better immigration policies than Mexico is nothing to brag about. That's like saying a piece of feces smells better than a cadaver. Again the Mexican government is not the Mexican people. They have no democracy. When they protest in Mexico the federales come and shoot you.

If Mexican workers are that unhappy with jobs at US companies, they should unionize and demand higher wages.  Just bear in mind that this could make Mexican labor less attractive to foreign companies.

That's what they are doing in Oaxaca and the government sent in the national army to kill the people of the town.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itdv5Yq9i_c

The police there killed a US reporter who was filming the protests.

As long as it isn't socialist revolution.  Face it, the whole Communist thing didn't work out in the USSR or Cuba.  I do hope the people will elect new government leaders who will stamp out the corruption.  I hope they enact new laws to allow greater business and job growth in Mexico so people don't have to come into the US illegally.  But isolationism with respect to commercial and business interests just doesn't fly too well in today's world.  Mexico expanding its market and becoming a more equal trading partner would benefit the US and Mexico.

It might be a socialist revolt or it might be anarchist. I don't know. Either way it is fantastic. Capitalism has never worked for my people and it never will.