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#1 2007-07-24 9:48 am
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Mac security question?
I'm new to owning a mac and just bought a 17 inch imac. I ran a test from sheilds up.com and it told me that I have ports 0 1 closed but not stealthed. I turned on the sleath mode in the firewall settings on my imac but they still show up. I also have a D-Link router as well and tried my best to set it up. Any ideas on how to fix this?
The other question I have is that the test also showed that my computer was responding to pinging and was wanting to know how to fix it from doing that?
Thank you:)
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#2 2007-07-24 10:09 am
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Re: Mac security question?
I'd bet a dollar that your D-Link router is doing all the responding and none of the requests from the web site are ever reaching your Mac.
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#3 2007-07-24 10:49 am
Re: Mac security question?
There is nothing inherently insecure about your computer responding to a ping. Indeed it can actually be a helpful sanity check if you're trying to diagnose network problems.
I would likewise not worry too much about stealthing your Mac. The difference between stealthed and closed is that if a port is closed, your computer will actively refuse incoming connections whereas if it is stealthed it will just ignore them. Stealthing is security through obscurity and really in your case not a huge concern.
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#4 2007-07-24 12:15 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
Not the run of the mill 1st post. Congratulations on the new Mac.
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#5 2007-07-24 12:50 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
I agree with roo and daniel. It's probably your router and there is no danger.
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#6 2007-07-24 12:50 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
What type of a virus scan do most people run on there mac? Any other suggestions to help with viruses, spy ware and such?
so far there has been no problems with using the mac. I hope it stays that way.
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#7 2007-07-24 12:55 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
Graham wrote:
What type of a virus scan do most people run on there mac? Any other suggestions to help with viruses, spy ware and such?
I don't do smurf for protection on ANY of my Macs. Never have. I download gobs or random unknown files and visit an unhealthy share of shady websites without ANY issues. No viruses, no spyware, no nothin. When someone makes a real virus for OS X I'll start worrying about it. For now, I just run regular backups because a hardware failure is far more likely than anything else.
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#8 2007-07-24 1:55 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
pottymouth wrote:
Graham wrote:
What type of a virus scan do most people run on there mac? Any other suggestions to help with viruses, spy ware and such?
I don't do smurf for protection on ANY of my Macs. Never have. I download gobs or random unknown files and visit an unhealthy share of shady websites without ANY issues. No viruses, no spyware, no nothin. When someone makes a real virus for OS X I'll start worrying about it. For now, I just run regular backups because a hardware failure is far more likely than anything else.
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#9 2007-07-24 2:20 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
I agree with everyone else: it's your router which is responding, not your Mac.
Check out the Security Now podcasts. All of the episodes are available at this link (Security Now is also found on iTunes, but it only has the last 25 episodes available there). You might start with episode 25 and go through to episode 47 (for now skipping the listerner Q&A episodes which are those divisible by 4) to get a general overview of Internet security. The focus of Security Now is mostly on Windows, but there is lots of info for computers in general. Part of the reason why I mention Security Now is the router vs. computer responding is explained here among those episodes above.
As of yet there are no viruses which can affect Macs. Apple is fairly proactive in updating their software with security fixes so you should make sure that you have downloaded and installed all of the latest fixes from Apple. This can be done fairly easily by running Software Update (Apple). If you would rather keep track of this yourself or download the software for later installation, you can find the latest downloads from Apple here.
If you have to communicate with a lot of people who use PCs like I do, you might install an anti-virus program in order to detect when something bad is sent by them to you so you don't wind up passing problems along to other PC users. For this you might consider using ClamXav (VersionTracker link, freeware).
EDIT: added info on Security Now.
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#10 2007-07-24 2:29 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
Yup, D'Eyncourt has a good summary.
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#11 2007-07-24 3:38 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
There is no reason to add some sort of virus scanner on a mac. I have my firewall turned on for good measure though. Firewall settings can be found in System Prefrences, in the sharing pane.
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#12 2007-07-24 5:10 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
potty mouth what kinds of regular back ups do you or anybody reccomend incase of hardware failure?
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#13 2007-07-24 6:59 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
I keep it simple. Copy my backups to a Firewire disk.
I made an Automator script to help me do the main stuff. In addition to copying your iTunes music, photos, documents, I also copy many parts of the home folder / Library folder.
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#14 2007-07-24 7:14 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
Nefarious wrote:
I keep it simple. Copy my backups to a Firewire disk.
I made an Automator script to help me do the main stuff. In addition to copying your iTunes music, photos, documents, I also copy many parts of the home folder / Library folder.
Agreed. Hard drive space is cheap enough and transfer rates are almost fast enough that there is no reason not to backup to an external hard drive.
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#15 2007-07-24 7:45 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
Not to mention you'll probably need it for Time Machine in 10.5.
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#16 2007-07-24 8:37 pm
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IMHO a bootable backup is the way to go.
With SuperDuper! a weekly incremental backup of my PB 1.5GHz G4 PowerBook takes less than 10 minutes.
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#17 2007-07-24 9:42 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
NAG wrote:
Not to mention you'll probably need it for Time Machine in 10.5.
Yeah. Been running 10.5 since WWDC. I use Time Machine. Its great, Leopard installer also gives you the option to restore your system from a Time Machine archive.
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#18 2007-07-26 7:44 am
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Re: Mac security question?
i have another quick question, How much ram can you out into an imac? I have 2 gigs now but was looking to add more.
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#19 2007-07-26 9:01 am
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Re: Mac security question?
Look up your specific model. My G5 iSight iMac maxes at 2 GB, the latest are up to 4 GB, I think, maybe more.
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#20 2007-07-26 2:46 pm
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Re: Mac security question?
Graham wrote:
i have another quick question, How much ram can you out into an imac? I have 2 gigs now but was looking to add more.
You can look up your model via MacTracker (donation-ware) or Apple History.
You may run into some notation where the max RAM entry for a particular model has something like "X GB (actual), Y GB (Apple)." What is meant by this is that the official specs from Apple says that Y GBs is the max RAM, but the availability of newer RAM or later tests have shown that X GBs can be used by that particular model.
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