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#226 2007-08-13 5:07 pm
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Re: let's do this again: tipping
Farmerkev wrote:
The entire concept behind making wait staff work for tips is all about ensuring they work their asses off for the customer.
Sure, but there ought to be a baseline for getting the food to you without spilling it over your clothes.
The waiter doesn't have to be super nice or fast to deserve a lousy 15%.
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#227 2007-08-13 5:09 pm
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Re: let's do this again: tipping
As was mentioned earlier, I would most certainly complain to a manager if I ever felt the service was that bad.
...but if I was out with someone who offered some of the statements made in this (and other) threads, I would probably never go out with that person again.
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#228 2007-08-13 5:11 pm
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Re: let's do this again: tipping
after-life wrote:
Farmerkev wrote:
The entire concept behind making wait staff work for tips is all about ensuring they work their asses off for the customer.
Sure, but there ought to be a baseline for getting the food to you without spilling it over your clothes.
The waiter doesn't have to be super nice or fast to deserve a lousy 15%.
I tend to rank things like attentiveness the highest personally.
If I've been forced to resort to drinking the water out of the flower vase because you're nowhere to be found to get a refill on my drink, expect a tip that reflects my displeasure.
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#229 2007-08-13 5:23 pm
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Re: let's do this again: tipping
To be honest, most upscale places I've gone to have very good service (almost annoying with how underfoot and intrusive they are), I can't imagine not tipping them 20% .
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#230 2007-08-13 5:26 pm
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Re: let's do this again: tipping
JakeTheTall wrote:
To be honest, most upscale places I've gone to have very good service (almost annoying with how underfoot and intrusive they are), I can't imagine not tipping them 20% .
Me too, more professional for lack of a better description.
I've had some very good servers even at low end chain type joints too but it's more hit or miss. Maybe they just aren't being taught correctly.
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#231 2007-08-13 5:26 pm
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Re: let's do this again: tipping
"This American Life" had a program on "acting hard to get." Informal experimentation suggested that an aloof manner, rather than a cheerful one, garnered the most tips.
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#232 2007-08-13 6:21 pm
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Re: let's do this again: tipping
wellfleation wrote:
Taxi driver
15% plus $1 to $2 per bag
Is that for your Jamaican taxi driver?
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#233 2007-08-13 11:37 pm
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Re: let's do this again: tipping
jerwin wrote:
"This American Life" had a program on "acting hard to get." Informal experimentation suggested that an aloof manner, rather than a cheerful one, garnered the most tips.
I'm very straight forward when I wait tables....the ingratiating routine annoys me.
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