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Phydeaux wrote:

Denying people's right to believe something or not is a slippery slope. It drags us right into Godwin's Law.

How can I possibly deny someone's  D U M B A S S rights to something I think borders on pure ignorance.

I cannot deny anyone anything here......

The truth sucks, some of us choose to face it and live with it.

Everyone who does not share all of my opinions or beliefs is mentally ill, since they are ignoring obvious facts. Those who argue with me are mentally ill fanatics.

Case closed.

KrowMagnum wrote:

Phydeaux wrote:

Denying people's right to believe something or not is a slippery slope. It drags us right into Godwin's Law.

How can I possibly deny someone's  D U M B A S S rights to something I think borders on pure ignorance.

Awesome. Now we get to the meat of it.

Those dumbass rights are also your own; you don't understand that because you're exhibiting a superiority complex. It makes you feel better, feel it lends credence to your viewpoint by labeling others who are not so enlightened to be ig-nor-a-mus.

You mix strong terms with wishy-washy vocabulary reflecting a weak stance ("possibly", "I think").

I cannot deny anyone anything here......

You do. You're just another cog in the machine. Perhaps the only ones of us that aren't mentally ill are those of us that realize we are, and what role we play.

The truth sucks, some of us choose to face it and live with it.

And you think people who believe otherwise are living in la-la land? I tell you that all but those that you parade, shills to your own cause reinforcing a stereotype, do not.

Last edited by Phydeaux (2007-09-06 2:03 pm)

KrowMagnum wrote:

Phydeaux wrote:

You are touting something as fact. You have faith in that it is true.

No faith involved just an opinion. Get a dictionary.

You tend to like to backpedal on this "opinion" word after all this "this is a fact" that you've spewn across the thread before my arrival.

sturner wrote:

Ok, if you believe that an unseeable, untouchable, non-copereal being can influence the physical world, requires you to particpate in rituals to propitiate it by certain behaviors, and controls everything possible, knows all things, and whose exisitence is impossible to quantitatively and definatively prove, ...

Yes, you could define someone who believes in a religion as dellusional if not mentally ill.

Since it is considered normal, I don't think it is likely that would be considered. However, if I recall, the Soviets used that as proof of insanity. Much as believing in Santa, the tooth fairty, etc.

You forgot that the people representing that unseeable being, on Earth, want your money.  So one could say that religion DOES have a significant negative impact on many believers.  A financial one.  Plus, some can't drink, or dance or do other fun stuff.

Hard to fight mass hysteria, though.  Calling it a mental illness probably won't work or help.

See, the thing is when people start this "religion is the power of mentally ill people" crap, they already have set images in their mind of SuperChurches, televangelists and the old guard of the Roman Catholic church. These aren't representative of all worldwide religions as a whole, nor even really of their own sect. They're just louder and more misinformed. But because we're a negativity driven society, folks latch on to this and justify their own viewpoints and beliefs by way of slander, rather than evidence as to proven that it's actually enriching their own lives, only that something else is ruining the lives of others.

Phydeaux wrote:

KrowMagnum wrote:

Phydeaux wrote:

Denying people's right to believe something or not is a slippery slope. It drags us right into Godwin's Law.

How can I possibly deny someone's  D U M B A S S rights to something I think borders on pure ignorance.

Awesome. Now we get to the meat of it.

Those dumbass rights are also your own; you don't understand that because you're exhibiting a superiority complex. It makes you feel better, feel it lends credence to your viewpoint by labeling others who are not so enlightened to be ig-nor-a-mus.

You mix strong terms with wishy-washy vocabulary reflecting a weak stance ("possibly", "I think").

I cannot deny anyone anything here......

You do. You're just another cog in the machine. Perhaps the only ones of us that aren't mentally ill are those of us that realize we are, and what role we play.

The truth sucks, some of us choose to face it and live with it.

And you think people who believe otherwise are living in la-la land? I tell you that all but those that you parade, shills to your own cause reinforcing a stereotype, do not.

Yes, I do ;-)

And getting defensive is a sign of insecurity. Don't get mad at me because you have doubts about your religious "beliefs". I didn't put the holes there, I just poke at them.

Last edited by KrowMagnum (2007-09-06 4:52 pm)

My teen angst detector just started sparking.

Geesie is just being sensitive

Oh, I think a majority of America is mentally ill, just not necessarily because of religion... 

sturner wrote:

JakeTheTall wrote:

After all, why doesn't god heal amputees ?

Cause She doesn't work that way, girlfriend

Fixed that for you.

Ain't it great? All the worst excesses possible in a tiny portion of the web.

So does anyone else understand now how our current 'understanding' of mental illness is subjective bullsmurf after reading this thread?