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#1 2007-09-11 6:54 pm
Crashed!
FAH Crashed today.
Well, it is BETA, so I can't complain to hard.
Does anyone know it crash logs are being sent in, monitored, read or whatever?
Actually, looking at the log, it has crashed several times since I installed it late last week.
Also, all throughout the log file, it mentions 32 bit. Isn't this a 64 bit system and isn't the SMP version of FAH 64 bit?
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#2 2007-09-11 7:22 pm
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Is Folding still running in the Activity Monitor ? If yes, it sounds like you ran into a faulty "work unit".
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#3 2007-09-11 8:35 pm
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When I restarted the iMac (which apparently shut down while I was at work), FAH started itself up and continued where it left off and is currently running.
Edited on 9/16/07 to remove crash log listing to make thread more readable.
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#4 2007-09-11 8:42 pm
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Delete the folding@home folder in your Home / Library folder.
Re-download and install. I suspect a bad WU.
Let's see how that goes.
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#5 2007-09-11 9:23 pm
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Nefarious wrote:
Delete the folding@home folder in your Home / Library folder.
Re-download and install. I suspect a bad WU.
Let's see how that goes.
Should I download Beta or Beta5?
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#6 2007-09-11 9:25 pm
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don't know.
I've not had the true experience of either. suggest Beta5
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#7 2007-09-16 7:01 pm
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Well, I used Beta5. I'm not sure which I originally installed.
The new situation is that seemingly for no reason or because I log out of my account on a multiuser computer, Folding@Home shuts down prior to finishing a unit!
Shouldn't Folding@Home console version stay running even when I, the administrator/installer is logged out, but computer is still running? 
I've set Energy Saver panel to NEVER sleep the CPU, put display to sleep after 30 minutes.
BTW, prior to the crash last week, this "shutdown" business didn't occur.
Any ideas?
Oh, one more thing, the last unit completed was done on my MBP 2GHz CD 2MB RAM. The fans really kick in and get a bit noisy. They are running between 3000-4800 RPM. It also takes nearly twice as long to finish a unit on the MBP then the new iMac 2.8GHz Core 2 Extreme 4GB RAM. 
I hope I'm not working the MBP to an early death.
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#8 2007-09-16 7:04 pm
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Did you use InCrease to install ? There's an option about shutting down Folding upon logout, to check or uncheck.
If no, check again. If yes, try it.
Congratulations on great output to date.
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#9 2007-09-16 7:09 pm
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Nefarious wrote:
Did you use InCrease to install ? There's an option about shutting down Folding upon logout, to check or uncheck.
If no, check again. If yes, try it.
Congratulations on great output to date.
Thanks for the congrats. I don't know anything about "InCrease". Where do I find that?
Edit:
OK, I found InCrease. I will install forthwith. 
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#10 2007-09-16 7:19 pm
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I forgot to add that InCrease will detect your current protein and NOT overwrite it, as far as I know.
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#12 2007-10-10 10:55 pm
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Gosh! Nothing seems to go my way lately. I just lost another large protein today, this one at 96% 
It would seem I still have a network problem, but I want to eliminate possible problems with F@H itself before I dig deeper into network issues.
A couple of questions for anyone in the know:
What do the flags each do (or mean) when executing fah6 as shown below,
Launch directory: /Users/( edited) /Library/FAH
Executable: /Users/( edited ) /Library/FAH/fah6
Arguments: -local -advmethods -forceasm -verbosity 9 -smp
Warning:
By using the -forceasm flag, you are overriding
safeguards in the program. If you did not intend to
do this, please restart the program without -forceasm.
If work units are not completing fully (and particularly
if your machine is overclocked), then please discontinue
use of the flag.
Also, is the following normal or an indication that something might be going wrong:
[12:40:15] Completed 8500000 out of 10000000 steps (85 percent)
[12:54:37] - Autosending finished units...
[12:54:37] Trying to send all finished work units
[12:54:37] + No unsent completed units remaining.
[12:54:37] - Autosend completed
[12:55:15] Timered checkpoint triggered.
[12:55:34] Writing local files
[12:55:34] Completed 8600000 out of 10000000 steps (86 percent)
This sequence repeats approx. every 23%. The previous protein work unit has completed and been uploaded.
Your generous thoughts are appreciated.
edited to protect against possible remote attack
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#13 2007-10-10 11:07 pm
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I would not worry about the 2nd set of paragraphs.
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#14 2007-10-11 10:14 am
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Nefarious, Thanks for editing my path, I didn't give it much thought before posting.
I'm pretty sure this problem is network related to my iMac. The other two computers sharing the same network don't experience this problem. I ran a speed check and discovered that while the PM G4 & MacBook are running at normal speed for the verizon 1.5Gb DSL line, the Alum iMac is running at about 1/3 speed!
The network settings are the same on all the computers. They are all wireless via Airport Express. I'm going to try connecting the iMac through a physical Ethernet line tonight and see if that makes a difference. I'll probably loose the protein the iMac is working on today as well. 
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#15 2007-10-11 5:13 pm
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Here's a network thread http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic20931.html
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#16 2007-10-12 3:39 pm
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I believe I may have a possible answer for the last two protiens that were deleted due to "communication error 0x1".
My wife called me yesterday at work to tell me with great angst in her voice that getting on the web and / or retrieving her email was getting next to impossible. "It's all running so slow. And, there is this little icon on the menu bar that is blinking that I never noticed before."
With my new iMac, I also opted for a Bluetooth MM, which runs on two AA batteries. Bluetooth is only activated on the iMac, not the MacBook Pro or the aging PM G4. I have only had the communication error on the iMac.
When I got home, what I saw was the Bluetooth icon ocillating between it's normal look and an icon of a AA battery. The mouse pointer would no longer move and mail.app and Safari were both hung with a spinning beachball. So, I changed the batteries. Voila! The mouse pointer starting moving again, email retreived my wife's mail and Safari started acting normal.
Now, what has this got to do with F@H? Well, I believe the mouse has pretty high priority in OS X for pointing, selecting, etc. OS X was waiting for the mouse to complete a selection before acting on the next transaction, thereby hanging up the system since my wife was trying to pick on a mail item to open, but, bluetooth wasn't sending a signal. Now, if F@H is trying to communicate and mail and Safari are both hung waiting on a button click signal, this may very well disrupt the internet connection enough for F@H to determine there is no connection and delete it's protein.
I'm not an expert here. This is just from my own observation. Perhaps someone with more knowledge & experience can either verify or debunk my observation.
Update 8:30PM:
I just lost one off the MacBook Pro and the network connections all seem quite normal & fast. So much for my theory!
I still think that a dying Bluetooth MM can hose up network connections. I also still think the problem with F@H is internet connection related.
I'll keep digging.
Edited for update
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