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bratboy wrote:

jondaris wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

It wasn't for science, it was for peace. And he shared it with the UN department that focuses on global warming.

I thought as an old-timer on the board, you of all people would have gotten the reference.

I rushed to make such a comment but found I was already too late.

Even after all these years it's still funny.

The funny thing about that UK fringe political party is that it seemingly takes it's name from the party of Oswald Mosley, who later went on to form the British Union of Fascists.

Evidently this current party is not related to that old one at all, but what a clumsy choice of name, no?

It looks like Steve is pretty proud of Al:
http://www.apple.com/

The peace prize, what an honor - If Yasser Arafat
were still alive they could have a drink together and talk about their accomplishments. Whats next, give Brittany Spears the mother of the year award?

Daddyo wrote:

The peace prize, what an honor - If Yasser Arafat
were still alive they could have a drink together and talk about their accomplishments. Whats next, give Brittany Spears the mother of the year award?

So you're saying that Gore's actions were counterproductive to world peace?

Freakout Jackson wrote:

robco wrote:

And is there a politician out there that isn't a liar?

That's what kev says when you call out neo-cons for lying.

We used to have some among the scum.
Paul Simon, Chuck Percy, several others I can recall from both sides of the aisle.
I don't think there are any decent now.
I wish there were.

resedit wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

Daddyo wrote:

The peace prize, what an honor - If Yasser Arafat
were still alive they could have a drink together and talk about their accomplishments. Whats next, give Brittany Spears the mother of the year award?

Well, Jimmy Carter did do work worthy of it with Habitat for Humanity.

I don't think that's what he got it for.
Habitat for Humanity is an outstanding organization, but I don't think it is an accomplishment that has anything to do with world peace.

You're clueless as to what causes unrest then.

Freakout Jackson wrote:

resedit wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

Well, Jimmy Carter did do work worthy of it with Habitat for Humanity.

I don't think that's what he got it for.
Habitat for Humanity is an outstanding organization, but I don't think it is an accomplishment that has anything to do with world peace.

You're clueless as to what causes unrest then.

Word.

Freakout Jackson wrote:

resedit wrote:

Chickenhawk wrote:

Well, Jimmy Carter did do work worthy of it with Habitat for Humanity.

I don't think that's what he got it for.
Habitat for Humanity is an outstanding organization, but I don't think it is an accomplishment that has anything to do with world peace.

You're clueless as to what causes unrest then.

Clue me then.
How did Habitat for Humanity contribute to world peace?

My understanding the primary factor in his 2002 peace prize was his 1994 meeting with Kim II Sung, brokering an agreement in which North Korea would stop their nuclear fuel production. Of course there were other factors, but I believe that was the main one.

Unfortunately (and after the prize was awarded) in 2005 North Korea announced they had arms and did an underground detonation to prove it - so the agreement wasn't worth much apparently, but that's what it was for.

The Nobel website reads:

"for his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development"

I'm shocked that Jimmy wasn't able to reach an agreement with every future leader of North Korea.  Why did he even bother?

bratboy wrote:

That prize was for three people, including Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin (who was assassinated for his part in the accords).  I don't see how excluding Arafat would have been productive.

The disingenuousness of this argument becomes apparent when you check around the right-wing blogosphere, all of whom mention the award for Arafat and none of whom mention Peres and Rabin.

resedit wrote:

How so?

Look here, here, or here.

There are dozens of other examples, but I just ate breakfast.

bratboy wrote:

That prize was for three people, including Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin (who was assassinated for his part in the accords).  I don't see how excluding Arafat would have been productive.