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elpato84 wrote:

LLEVIATHANN wrote:

Metacell wrote:

No more dodge-jump or double jump .  You can still wall dodge, or so I hear.  It will be a loooong time before I get to play it as I know nobody with a machine that will run it.

Jump dodge is the only thing missing. Double jump is there. AMOF it's the way to activate the jump boots.

Jump dodge? You mean when you double-tap to dodge? That's there.

Yes good ol' dodging is there. In K3-4 they added jump dodge which gave a distance boost if you did double tap-jump. That is gone in favor of UT99 style of movement.

::EDIT to add::
So far I'm like what I see too in game. Couple things I'd like to see changed, not that they'll happen tho. One the 'being shot at' blur/screen changes. The action is too fast to be so distracted by your screen going funky too. Add insult to injury. Second is better indication on where the damage is coming from. Too often I'm watching health disappear wondering where on earth is it coming from.

The UI needs work. Way too much drilling down just to get a game on and the server screen. :gag: Epic has been in a downward spiral in terms of UI. '99 Good, K3-4 Blah, UT3 Gag.

Last edited by LLEVIATHANN (2007-10-16 9:22 am)

macmenace wrote:

I just downloaded it and set everything to max settings. It looks pretty good, but like GoW I think the color palette is too muted.
Screenshot I took:
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8400 … og3.th.jpg

>settings>video settings>post processing>(vivid)
Probably won't do much, but I set that sucker there five minutes into Gears and never looked back.

I'm liking Muted and/or Default. Vivid and Intence makes things too shiny to me but in GoW it's Vivid.

Bat wrote:

... maybe it grew on you?

More like maybe my memory is failing and I honestly don't recall my GoW settings 100%.

Having now spent some quality time with the demo I can make some real comments.
1. No AA. To get playable FPS on my rig I had to turn off pretty much all of the eye candy (bloom, depth of field etc.). Even without AA and all of the other stuff gotta say this game continues to look good at 1920 x 1200. Not sure that AA would really add to the enjoyment at resolutions of 1920x1200 and above. I was able to maintain av FPS at a playable 40-45 with my ancient system.

2. Movement. I still find myself trying to dodge-jump even when I know I can't. I guess it is muscle memory from 2K4. The pared down movement is like the original UT with double jump still there. The surf board (grav board?) serves the purpose to get you back in the action but you're going to need the jump boots to get to those hard to reach places.

3. The surf board. As above but I do not like the recovery time from a fall. Basically you go down under fire you are toast with no way to defend yourself.

4. Vehicles. Limited choices in the demo. The tank seems easier to take down. Chained shock balls in the Bender are nice. What the hell is the Scorpion shooting? Driving the Scorp and the Bender is a pain. The steering is way too sensitive -- power steering on steroids. The flying stuff seems just right. The Necris walker (can we say War of the Worlds boys and girls) is a blast!

5. The menu interface. At least in the demo I think that it sucks! Unless a lot changes in the final you will be doing some serious ini diving. The server browser in the demo is very bad and I hope it was just a tack on for the demo.

My experience with this demo on my PC makes me concerned just how well this game will run on Mac. I really doubt that it will be good on my 2x2 G5 and probably not on my MBP Duo. We'll have to wait and see what magic Ryan weaves.

Last edited by DoctorB (2007-11-01 6:34 am)

DoctorB wrote:

Having now spent some quality time with the demo I can make some real comments.
1. No AA. To get playable FPS on my rig I had to turn off pretty much all of the eye candy (bloom, depth of field etc.). Even without AA and all of the other stuff gotta say this game continues to look good at 1920 x 1200. Not sure that AA would really add to the enjoyment at resolutions of 1920x1200 and above. I was able to maintain av FPS at a playable 40-45 with my ancient system.

As mentioned elsewhere, a few hundred $ in upgrades e.g. an X1950 (AGP) would improve things muchly in your ancient [ca. early 2004 ] rig, but that's your call. And

Another testing note -- antialiasing was not running for any of these tests.  Just like the previous UT3 engine games we have tested (Rainbow Six: Vegas and Bioshock) the game does not have any options for AA and forcing on AA at the control panel resulted in no image quality differences.  As for future AA support, I am told that by the second demo release and the retail release, Epic should have a patch out for the Unreal Engine 3 that will enable AA support across the board.  Let's hope so -- missing such a standard feature in an engine like this is just crazy!

http://www.maclife.com/forums/post/1478926#p1478926

Sweeney has always said DX10/Vista would be needed for FSAA under Winders. They get some in GoW on 360 via proprietary functionality in Xenos (not enough to my eye, but it was the first major UE3 title. Hopefully a year of codebase advances will benefit UE3 in this). We should see in the final, non-beta demo.

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My experience with this demo on my PC makes me concerned just how well this game will run on Mac. I really doubt that it will be good on my 2x2 G5 and probably not on my MBP Duo. We'll have to wait and see what magic Ryan weaves.

Yup. No word on PPC support, but at least UT3 seems less CPU- than GPU-limited, or so Epic says. Edit: Maybe the Scorp shoots Nerf shells, and FSAA always helps- with texture shimmer and more, not just jaggies.

LLEVIATHANN wrote:

Bat wrote:

In any case, maybe you should edit your thread title as...

I tried when the demo came out and I couldn't.

Editing post #1 should let you edit the thread title.

Last edited by Bat (2007-11-01 11:50 am)

I'll try a minor title edit on one of mine to see if that still works (it ought to, but these days...)

Bat wrote:

It does- I just added 'now up' to the LucasArtsBioWare.com thread title.
Edit the title line.

Sent ya an email of a screen cap. I don't get a field to edit the title. I don't think I have since the switch.

LLEVIATHANN wrote:

Bat wrote:

It does- I just added 'now up' to the LucasArtsBioWare.com thread title.
Edit the title line.

Sent ya an email of a screen cap. I don't get a field to edit the title. I don't think I have since the switch.

I see. Looks like another job for our web dev team... so maybe by next summer.

MacZiMiZer wrote:

so can anyone compare/contrast UT3 to UT99?

No, it's a new game. UT99 is the past get over it, move on. If you enter into a game with judgmental expectations then the situation is doomed to fail from the beginning.

I would say it's more UT99-ish than the more recent titles, if that's what you mean.

I don't think he can. It won't reach PS3 'til '08, and IIRC no demo for it then.