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#51 2007-11-16 3:30 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

The ironic thing is, this is not even close to being as bad as the Maximum PC ad issue.  Despite being a Mac user, I read Maximum PC. nerd  A couple of month ago, they ran, for 2 months straight, a 2 page ad about a product that will enlarge a, um, certain part of the Male's body.  That was bad.  True, I don't like having 30 pages of advertisements for at&t (heck, I don't even have a cell phone, and I don't plan on getting one), but until something is truly making the magazine unreadable (even if not by you, but by younger family members), there is no real reason to make such a fuss.

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#52 2007-11-16 3:51 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

Yeah this month they (Maximum PC) had the same "Special Advertising Section" again.  Same as last month only this time they devoted another 8-10 pages for 1and1.com Internet hosting.  It really is getting ridiculous.


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#53 2007-11-16 6:22 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

safarirss6394 wrote:

...Despite being a Mac user, I read Maximum PC. nerd  A couple of month ago, they ran, for 2 months straight, a 2 page ad about a product that will enlarge a, um, certain part of the Male's body...

I think that's there because "everyone knows" that male PC users have small male body parts.  tongue

Let's also not forget the ads for "Erectile Disfunction" you see in PC & PC World.  They wouldn't place the ads if the magazines reader statistics didn't show an audience receptive to their product(s).

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#54 2007-11-16 7:27 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

Jyri Erik wrote:

safarirss6394 wrote:

...Despite being a Mac user, I read Maximum PC. nerd  A couple of month ago, they ran, for 2 months straight, a 2 page ad about a product that will enlarge a, um, certain part of the Male's body...

I think that's there because "everyone knows" that male PC users have small male body parts.  tongue

Let's also not forget the ads for "Erectile Disfunction" you see in PC & PC World.  They wouldn't place the ads if the magazines reader statistics didn't show an audience receptive to their product(s).

Jyri

big_smile Still, the pictures were very, um, X rated...as in, something that you would see at Victoria's Secret.  So, not suitable for a magazine designed to be read by the entire family.


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#55 2007-11-16 7:29 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

Also, I just got the latest MPC issue in today and, instead of having tons of "special advertising sections," what they did was to include a miniature magazine filled with HP ads.  I would not have minded if MacLife had done the same. (As in stuck in an at&t mini-magazine).

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#56 2007-11-16 10:03 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

Check again.  The most recent MPC has not only the HP mini ad but the same cell phone "gaming" advertisement along with a long ad for 1and1.com Internet hosting.


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#57 2007-11-17 7:14 am

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

Random User wrote:

Check again.  The most recent MPC has not only the HP mini ad but the same cell phone "gaming" advertisement along with a long ad for 1and1.com Internet hosting.

Yeah, I know, but every once in a while MPC takes ads out of the main magazine and sticks a 3rd party advertisement thing in the bag, sometimes for HP, NVIDEA, ect.


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#58 2007-11-18 9:10 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

what mad me laugh was the modmypc.com or what ever ad that was sponsored my microsoft windows vista.  glad to know that the redmond giant thinks that macs are important enough to sponsor them.


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#59 2007-11-18 9:25 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

frankly wrote:

They are ads, not content. When you watch tv do you think to yourself, boy I wish they had more commercials for things I want to buy or do you think, man I wish they had less commercials??? This is one of the reasons TiVo is so popular, because people want to fast forward over the commercials.

I have a TiVo. I skip over the ads just like everyone else. Sorry, I don't have chronic dry eye and I don't have chronic constipation.

But on the off-chance that something catches my eye, I will jump back and watch the commercial. I am much more likely to watch a commercial for a product I don't have and might be interested in.


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#60 2007-11-18 10:03 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

matt wrote:

frankly wrote:

They are ads, not content. When you watch tv do you think to yourself, boy I wish they had more commercials for things I want to buy or do you think, man I wish they had less commercials??? This is one of the reasons TiVo is so popular, because people want to fast forward over the commercials.

I have a TiVo. I skip over the ads just like everyone else. Sorry, I don't have chronic dry eye and I don't have chronic constipation.

But on the off-chance that something catches my eye, I will jump back and watch the commercial. I am much more likely to watch a commercial for a product I don't have and might be interested in.

Yes, but you aren't going to stop watching a show because they have ads for products that you don't want, are you? Your use of TiVo is exactly how I use my TiVo and it demonstrates my point exactly. If there are ads in Mac|Life that don't interest me I simply skip over them. There has never ever been a magazine where 100% of the ads interested me.

The argument that has been made earlier in this thread that really bothers me is that Mac|Life should insist on getting ads from companies whose products their readers might be interested in. If that were how easy it were to sell ads for magazines then the magazine industry wouldn't be doing as badly as it has been for the past 5-10 years. It is hard to sell ads for magazine so if Sony and AT&T want to give you money that will help you keep your magazine running, does it really make any sense for Mac|Life to turn them down??? It's not like they turned away a Mac-centric ad in order to run the Sony ad.

People in this thread have actually said they are considering canceling their subscription because there were ads for something that didn't have to do with the Mac. If they had their way they might not have to cancel because if Mac|Life adopted their standards for which ads to accept or decline they might simply go out of business.

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#61 2007-11-19 12:00 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

sinclair_tm wrote:

what mad me laugh was the modmypc.com or what ever ad that was sponsored my microsoft windows vista.  glad to know that the redmond giant thinks that macs are important enough to sponsor them.

Oh, that was an ad for ModShop.net, which is run by our sister publication Maximum PC. So the marketing department here at Future placed that ad in Mac|Life.

ModShop is a cool idea for a site -- it runs "tournaments" of modded rigs, letting visitors vote on which should win each round. But so far all the prizes include Windows Vista, so it's probably not a huge draw for Mac modders...yet.

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#62 2007-11-19 1:46 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

justine wrote:

FutureDreamz wrote:

Donkey Butter wrote:

what about the 2 page advert for the sony vaio notebook.

thankfully december was my last issue.

What?
Scan, pls.

If you want to see the ad, go buy the magazine.

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#63 2007-11-19 6:21 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

SusieOh, that was an ad for [url=http://www.modshop.net/mod-shop-manifesto wrote:

ModShop.net[/url], which is run by our sister publication Maximum PC. So the marketing department here at Future placed that ad in Mac|Life.

ModShop is a cool idea for a site -- it runs "tournaments" of modded rigs, letting visitors vote on which should win each round. But so far all the prizes include Windows Vista, so it's probably not a huge draw for Mac modders...yet.

i do have to admit that i have checked out the site when you all made reference to it in either a editor post or news post (i can't remember which) but felt that if they really wanted to get more mac people to check out the site, they should have a mac area, or at least some way for me to just see mac mods.  as a pc gamer, i've already see all there is to see for pcs.  but i'd like to see what people do with their macs.


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#64 2007-11-26 9:23 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

OMG Flash VAIO ads (and every [s]second[/s] one at it).

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#65 2007-12-19 2:00 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

The "Special Advertising Section" irritated me, as those things will in any publication (magazine, newspaper, etc).

The VAIO ad just made me laugh. A 2-page spread can't be cheap and I doubt that many Mac|Life readers are interested in a VAOI for its media capabilities. So, I lol'd at the fact that Sony is partially subsidizing a Mac magazine with very little hope of return.


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#66 2007-12-19 2:11 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

Tallgeese wrote:

The "Special Advertising Section" irritated me, as those things will in any publication (magazine, newspaper, etc).

The VAIO ad just made me laugh. A 2-page spread can't be cheap and I doubt that many Mac|Life readers are interested in a VAOI for its media capabilities. So, I lol'd at the fact that Sony is partially subsidizing a Mac magazine with very little hope of return.

Somehow I don't think they would pay for advertising without hope of a return. I don't think people are taking into consideration how many readers of Mac|Life have to use Windows machines at work or for other reasons. Sony's marketing department must have bought the ad with that in mind. I'm sure that the Mac|Life sales department also has information about their readers as to what their potential is for purchasing certain things or being in certain categories.

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#67 2007-12-19 2:14 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

frankly wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

The "Special Advertising Section" irritated me, as those things will in any publication (magazine, newspaper, etc).

The VAIO ad just made me laugh. A 2-page spread can't be cheap and I doubt that many Mac|Life readers are interested in a VAOI for its media capabilities. So, I lol'd at the fact that Sony is partially subsidizing a Mac magazine with very little hope of return.

Somehow I don't think they would pay for advertising without hope of a return. I don't think people are taking into consideration how many readers of Mac|Life have to use Windows machines at work or for other reasons. Sony's marketing department must have bought the ad with that in mind.

Frank

Yeah, normally you'd be right but this is the company that so very successfully marketed ATRAC and Betamax.

Also, it's an ad for a home computer with Vista Home edition emphasizing its multimedia capabilities. That's solidly Mac territory.


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#68 2007-12-19 2:24 pm

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Re: 30 pages of ads for cell-phone games

I think Sony probably bought adspace from Future Media or whatever M|LFs parent company is, and the magazines all ran the same ad.


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