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#1 2008-01-15 3:39 pm
- bratboy
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Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
I'm not entirely sure where he's going with this....
I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that’s what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than trying to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family.
Clip here.
So....good idea? One that has any chance whatsoever of winning over those much needed "swing voters" in the middle?
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#2 2008-01-15 3:48 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
I am sure Ginesh would be very happy to have the constitution re-written to his standards, very happy indeed.
Thank you, come again!
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#4 2008-01-15 4:09 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
Wow, ok, he's out... Bye Bye Huckabee
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#5 2008-01-15 4:17 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
President Huckabee could send fact finding missions to Saudi Arabia, Iran and Nigeria to see if the penal code can be brought up to god's standards as well. Why just stop at the constitution?
when surrounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
and the women come out to cut up what remains,
just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,
and go to your god like a soldier...
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#6 2008-01-15 4:20 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
So...in other word Huckabee hates America, for real, not joking. A presidential candidate proposing we change to a theocracy.
Really rather proves what I have always thought, that evangelicals are opposed to the very foundations this country was built on.
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#7 2008-01-15 4:21 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
Kripto wrote:
No, NO!
It is Zeus and Apollo who must be obeyed!
The Constitution must be re-written into the proper ancient Greek before it is too late!
Pfft, if anyone it needs to be Dionysus.
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#8 2008-01-15 4:44 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
Gurlugon wrote:
Kripto wrote:
No, NO!
It is Zeus and Apollo who must be obeyed!
The Constitution must be re-written into the proper ancient Greek before it is too late!Pfft, if anyone it needs to be Dionysus.
May all four arms of Vishnu smite you upside the head for such foolishness!
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#9 2008-01-15 5:17 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
Gurlugon wrote:
Kripto wrote:
No, NO!
It is Zeus and Apollo who must be obeyed!
The Constitution must be re-written into the proper ancient Greek before it is too late!Pfft, if anyone it needs to be Dionysus.
I second the motion...
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#10 2008-01-15 5:30 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
Jesus Christ
Jesus said to the servants, "Fill the jars with water"; so they filled them to the brim. Then he told them, "Now draw some out and take it to the master of the banquet." They did so, and the master of the banquet tasted the water that had been turned into wine. He did not realize where it had come from, though the servants who had drawn the water knew.
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#11 2008-01-15 5:39 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
Well, I will be a first time voter this year. As soon as he started this up he lost my vote.
Since I am now of age I guess I'll start coming in here more often.
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#12 2008-01-15 5:59 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
It makes me suspicious, of course, but what specifically is he talking about?
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#13 2008-01-15 6:03 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
ShnickyShnack wrote:
It makes me suspicious, of course, but what specifically is he talking about?
Abortion and teh gays.
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#14 2008-01-15 6:19 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
after-life wrote:
ShnickyShnack wrote:
It makes me suspicious, of course, but what specifically is he talking about?
Abortion and teh gays.
Yeah, what else could it be? Abortion and gay marriage to be specific, I'm sure.
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#15 2008-01-15 6:33 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
bratboy wrote:
I'm not entirely sure where he's going with this....
I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution.
Well, no smurf. The fact is you're the only one who does, chucklenuts.
But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God.
Yeah, right...
bratboy wrote:
And that’s what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than trying to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family.
Clip here.
So....good idea?
You smurfing jest, right?
bratboy wrote:
One that has any chance whatsoever of winning over those much needed "swing voters" in the middle?
Sure, it may buy him a percentage but I doubt if enough of the whole country will really buy that kind of bullsmurf. Still, we're talking about the stupid voters who re-elected Bush here. 10 years from now we may be hiding out in Carlsbad Caverns and you might be in my face with a lot of "I told you sos." I can't seriously see the Republicans picking him now, though. Too many of their gay marriage amendment attempts have failed on the state level for him to be a viable candidate now that he stuck his big fat foot in his religious mouth, don't you think?
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#16 2008-01-15 6:35 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
This is a good thing. Now this sob will be seen for what he is and stopped.
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#17 2008-01-15 6:47 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
Farmerkev wrote:
This is a good thing. Now this sob will be seen for what he is and stopped.
I take it you'll not be campaigning for him in your primaries then?
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#18 2008-01-15 7:33 pm
Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
Farmerkev wrote:
This is a good thing. Now this sob will be seen for what he is and stopped.
I just hope that happens after he wins the nomination.
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#19 2008-01-15 7:40 pm
Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
He said nothing about a theocracy.
I think some of you would benefit from reading what many of the forefathers wrote.
Here's a document some of you might recognize -
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Note that they did not set out to create a theocracy, but they did appeal to God's standards, right from the start.
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#20 2008-01-15 7:46 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
Laws of Nature and of Nature's God != the Abrahamic God.
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#21 2008-01-15 7:50 pm
Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
Chickenhawk wrote:
Laws of Nature and of Nature's God != the Abrahamic God.
That's exactly what it meant to them.
Note the monotheistic nature of their use, monotheism is Abraham's God.
There have been a few other monotheistic religions in history, but Abrahamic religions are the only ones that survived - really, it was only Judaism that survived, and Christianity and Islam came from Judaism.
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#22 2008-01-15 8:05 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
well, he lost my vote.
"Evil will always triumph because Good is dumb."
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#23 2008-01-15 8:06 pm
Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
Robert B. wrote:
well, he lost my vote.
I don't think he ever had it.
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#24 2008-01-15 8:11 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
resedit wrote:
He said nothing about a theocracy.
I think some of you would benefit from reading what many of the forefathers wrote.
So what did he mean, then? Should we "amend the Constitution" to "God's standards?"
What are "God's standards," anyway....and is it appropriate to level them against non-christians--by law--for the simple reason that they are "God's standards?"
Weren't some of the "founders" deists? What do we look to for the "standards" of the deists's god?
What sort of involvement with religion did evangelicals of the founding period seek? Do you even know?
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#25 2008-01-15 8:15 pm
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Re: Huckabee: ‘amend the Constitution’ to ‘God’s standards.’
resedit wrote:
Robert B. wrote:
well, he lost my vote.
I don't think he ever had it.
well, you don't know smurf.
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