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#1 2008-02-27 11:23 pm
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Java programmer app.
Well, thanks to school, I'm finally learning how to code in basic Java... which is wonderful. At school we use JCreator LE, which seems to do a very good job.. but I want something for the mac. All the programs that I have now, I want to bring them over to my computer, so I can always refer back to them.
What is a good program I could use that is similar to JCreator LE?
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#2 2008-02-28 10:19 am
Re: Java programmer app.
I don't know if you're looking specifically for features in JCreator LE, but XCode is also used for Java programming.
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#3 2008-02-28 10:37 am
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Re: Java programmer app.
Metacell wrote:
I don't know if you're looking specifically for features in JCreator LE, but XCode is also used for Java programming.
OK, that's what I thought... but where can I get xcode from? I don't have the leopard disc though... it's somewhere, I don't know where.
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#4 2008-02-28 10:57 am
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You can download it from developer.apple.com.
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#5 2008-02-28 1:20 pm
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Re: Java programmer app.
Xcode might be a little overkill. Give DrJava a try, it's a great IDE for small projects.
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#6 2008-02-28 5:35 pm
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Re: Java programmer app.
Booksley wrote:
Xcode might be a little overkill. Give DrJava a try, it's a great IDE for small projects.
Yeah, DrJava is kinda what I'm looking for. Seems similar to JCreator LE, although it is a bit slow/not efficient.
Although I did find 2 others, I'm downloading them now.
www.eclipse.org
www.netbeans.org
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#7 2008-02-28 6:12 pm
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Re: Java programmer app.
Fried Chicken wrote:
Booksley wrote:
Xcode might be a little overkill. Give DrJava a try, it's a great IDE for small projects.
Yeah, DrJava is kinda what I'm looking for. Seems similar to JCreator LE, although it is a bit slow/not efficient.
Although I did find 2 others, I'm downloading them now.
www.eclipse.org
www.netbeans.org
Eclipse and Netbeans will confuse you as much as Xcode.
Stick with DrJava for now, until you get a handle on things. Hell, I still use DrJava occasionally, because it's the easiest way to simply debug a single file
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#8 2008-02-29 3:21 pm
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Re: Java programmer app.
Booksley wrote:
Fried Chicken wrote:
Booksley wrote:
Xcode might be a little overkill. Give DrJava a try, it's a great IDE for small projects.
Yeah, DrJava is kinda what I'm looking for. Seems similar to JCreator LE, although it is a bit slow/not efficient.
Although I did find 2 others, I'm downloading them now.
www.eclipse.org
www.netbeans.orgEclipse and Netbeans will confuse you as much as Xcode.
Stick with DrJava for now, until you get a handle on things. Hell, I still use DrJava occasionally, because it's the easiest way to simply debug a single file
Yeah, I still don't get the appeal of an IDE. I've tried Eclipse several times, as well as Sun's Java Studio Creator and they both just feel like bloated text editors, as if there's just more to them than necessary.
I typically install an AMP stack with Tomcat and mod_jk, then use a text editor, like Smultron, which has a sidebar browser to give you the one advantage I see IDEs having -and that's having all your files open in one window with the ability to bounce freely between them and edit whichever you need to edit for the time. And you could do that with kate on Linux, too.
For compiling and packaging (jars and wars) I use the Terminal. For testing, I use the Terminal, my AMP stack, then Firefox, IE4Linux and Safari.
(I'm doing J2EE stuff for web)
This means Google's Web Toolkit is also out the question, as you may just as well use my setup if you're going to go that route.
Of course, installing and configuring it all up takes a bit of time, more than if you were to simply start a project in a proper IDE, but it's fun to work with AMP, and if you compile/ custom-install it through the Terminal and edit all your configuration files yourself, you get a really solid understanding of how the backend does what it does.
So, pretty much, JDK, AMP with Tomcat/mod_jk, Terminal and Smultron.
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