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resedit wrote:

I suspect the people leaving tracts aren't doing it in place of a tip - they are just cheap people who happen to also be people who leave tracts everywhere.

Actually, back when I was in high school there was a tract that was often left that appeared to be cash from the outside.  The inside said that the pamphlet was more important than money.

resedit wrote:

Daddyo wrote:

Where's Bratboy?

He had to take a second job as a lawyer because deadbeats kept stiffing him his tips.

Ribtorus wrote:

spike wrote:

I have been cut by God. I was attempting to buy a book, was clearly at the register before anyone, and this guy in a clerical clothes comes up and blatantly cut me.

Should have told him to "get thee behind me!"

Or "thou shalt not budge!"

One of them scared the pee out of me when I was a kid.

I have seen people in ______ group be jerks. All people in ______ group are jerks.

StaticAge wrote:

Tallgeese wrote:

I have seen people in ______ group be jerks. All people in ______ group are jerks.

Very astute

Edit: fixed picture.  I find it really obnoxious when a site claims I'm stealing an image that they stole from elsewhere.

Last edited by Daniel (2008-04-17 3:00 pm)

333imacman wrote:

Proost wrote:

I never give tips btw that was pretty funny.

Any reason why? A lot of waiters/waitresses, including my brother, make only several dollars per hour (my brother started at $2something). They make they're living through tips.

Ya and guess why they get paid only so little? Because everyone gives ''tips''.
If they wouldn't get tips, they (and your brother) would never work in that place for $2.

I think it's just a bit weird that this custum exist, sure we also give tips but mostly not and when we do just a a little like 2-5 euro's. But they get paid good over here so we think it's a bit silly giving tips.

bratboy wrote:

Proost wrote:

Ya and guess why they get paid only so little? Because everyone gives ''tips''.
If they wouldn't get tips, they (and your brother) would never work in that place for $2.

I think it's just a bit weird that this custum exist, sure we also give tips but mostly not and when we do just a a little like 2-5 euro's. But they get paid good over here so we think it's a bit silly giving tips.

You're not an American, and thus you lack a frame of reference in this discussion.  Our culture is different than yours on this point.

Of course. Still IMO it looks silly looking from here/this culture.

Proost wrote:

Of course. Still IMO it looks silly looking from here/this culture.

Perhaps it is.  It probably does result in better service, however (as food costs would go up significantly if the restaurant paid the servers at a rate near what they usually make). 

Waiting tables is not easy work.  I wouldn't even think about doing it if the pay was anywhere near the minimum wage.

robco wrote:

It is silly. Servers should simply be paid for their work like everyone else. Tipping is stupid. IIRC, the whole tip differential thing isn't allowed here. Servers have to get paid minimum like everyone else - which is much higher. Here in the city, they have to be given benefits too, or pay into a fund that will provide benefits. The restaurants are fighting it tooth and nail.

I agree that servers should get paid minimum like everyone else - and I believe that is CA law - but minimum is still below livable wage.

For your college student living off of mom and dad and loans, minimum wage may be enough, but for the vast majority of Californians, minimum wage is not a livable income - especially if you want to put any away for a rainy day and/or retirement.

If waiting tables was an entry level job - minimum wage might be appropriate, but the good waiters have been doing it for years and are extremely skilled at what they do.

I don't believe people should tip out of obligation to do so, but I do think people should tip out of gratuity for the service they receive. If you can afford a 20% tip then you should do so. If you are still low on the food chain and can only afford a 10% tip then that's what you can afford, and you shouldn't feel bad about it.

If you can't "afford" to pay an adequate tip....why on earth would you be eating at such an expensive restaurant to begin with?

People are stingy. People suck.

If you insist upon dining at restaurants that you cannot truly "afford" to eat at, you should alert the server from the beginning that they will receive a maximum of 10%, no matter what.

Thats like asking for poor service.

do we really have to go down this road again
http://www.maclife.com/forums/topic/102601
and again
http://www.maclife.com/forums/topic/99118
and again
http://www.maclife.com/forums/topic/90966
BTW I work as a server in a restaurant and depend entirely on my tips for income.
I understand some people due to cultural or economic reasons tip poorly, IMO, or not at all that's the nature of the game but if we want to have the same debate for 10 or more pages fine by me 

Last edited by davic3 (2008-04-17 3:08 pm)