Forums | MacLife
You are not logged in.
#1 2008-04-01 7:19 pm
Ultimate OS9 Mac
If you wanted to run OS9 apps in classic mode, what machine would be the highest performance you could get? What version of OSX would you run, I'm assuming the last version of 10.4
I'll be looking for that machine locally on Craigslist.
What would be the best way to move those programs on floppy disc to that computer?
Thanks!
Mike
Offline
#2 2008-04-01 7:26 pm
- FutureDreamz
- 1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55

- From: カナダ
- Registered: 2007-01-07
- Posts: 4502
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
Would be overkill but: PowerMac G5 and an internal or USB floppy drive.
anything G3 with FireWire should be sufficient, but preferably a G4.
Thanks for clicking.
Offline
#3 2008-04-01 9:15 pm
- Tallgeese
- Arugula-eating Elitist

- From: Fake America
- Registered: 2000-10-17
- Posts: 30576
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
The G4 would be optimum for running OS 9 apps, since it would be able to boot into OS 9. Not everything runs in Classic.
QUESTION: What did Iraqi have to do with that?
BUSH: What did Iraq have to do with what?
QUESTION: The attacks upon the World Trade Center.
BUSH: Nothing
Offline
#4 2008-04-01 9:16 pm
- Tallgeese
- Arugula-eating Elitist

- From: Fake America
- Registered: 2000-10-17
- Posts: 30576
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
And for moving from the floppies, I'd use your current old computer (you have one, right?) and an ethernet crossover cable.
QUESTION: What did Iraqi have to do with that?
BUSH: What did Iraq have to do with what?
QUESTION: The attacks upon the World Trade Center.
BUSH: Nothing
Offline
#5 2008-04-01 10:30 pm
- Scott Baret
- Member
- Registered: 2008-03-30
- Posts: 54
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
You're better off getting a machine that supports them natively. Most pre-2003 Macs should do this. The G4 is going to be your best for raw performance unless you're using 68K-era apps. In that case I'd recommend a Quadra 950.
Offline
#6 2008-04-02 12:57 am
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
I have a 1.5GHz Digital Audio G4 which can boot both Leopard and OS 9.
Offline
#7 2008-04-03 1:09 am
- Tom_N
- Member
- Registered: 2002-01-24
- Posts: 887
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
A USB floppy drive would only work if the programs are on "PC-sized" (e.g., 1.44 MB) floppies, and are not copy-protected using some defective-floppy method.
To read 400 KB and 800 KB Mac floppies, you need an appropriate Apple drive -- the Apple drives packed the data more cleverly to get 400 KB instead of 360 KB; 800 KB instead of 720 KB; etc.
Offline
#8 2008-04-06 8:50 am
- loafer
- Member

- Registered: 2000-11-10
- Posts: 271
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
You may not be better off booting into 9 anymore. You may not be able to print without creating PDF files and booting back to X (no OS 9 print drivers for a lot of newer printers). You may have issues networking as well - you won't be able to use wireless G or N hardware and a variety of other peripherals. (Can OS 9 see anything on a USB 2.0 connection?) 10.4 really made using classic seamless. I make all my network connections in X and then start up classic and I can access file servers and printers with no issues. A fast powerbook is nice for classic and anything with a G4 or G5 chip will run classic programs faster than they ever ran on the original hardware.
Last edited by loafer (2008-04-06 8:51 am)
Offline
#9 2008-04-07 7:11 am
- dvpierce
- Negusa Negest
- Moderator

- From: Minneapolis, MN
- Registered: 1999-08-30
- Posts: 16800
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
loafer wrote:
You may not be better off booting into 9 anymore. You may not be able to print without creating PDF files and booting back to X (no OS 9 print drivers for a lot of newer printers).
Generic Postscript Printer Drivers ftw.
You may have issues networking as well - you won't be able to use wireless G or N hardware and a variety of other peripherals.
Gaming adapters.
(Can OS 9 see anything on a USB 2.0 connection?)
OS 9 USB drivers sucked anyway.
A fast powerbook is nice for classic and anything with a G4 or G5 chip will run classic programs faster than they ever ran on the original hardware.
When it runs at all.
"Now commences the process of cutting off the head, which generally takes from an hour to an hour and a half by an expert workman with a sharp blade." -Reuben Delano, Wanderings and Adventures
Offline
#10 2008-05-11 2:05 am
- willywalloo
- Member

- From: way over there
- Registered: 2000-07-06
- Posts: 880
- Website
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
Hey, you'd only want a G5, if you want a computer that will last you into the future.
Getting on the internet any more isn't an really a viable option in Mac OS 9. While 9 is good for old software programs to run, it's not good when it comes to being compatible with the rest of the world without a lot of headache.
An iMac G5 can be had for around the 400-500 $ mark if you keep your eyes peeled. Then: at least OS X will be there for any other needs you may have.
• iMac HD 24" 1080p / 250 GB / 500 GB / 2GB .............................. studio stuff
• MacBook Pro 1.83 Ghz / 320 GB / 2GB ........................................ hvr-a1u Sony HD 1080i
• PowerMac G5 / 1.6 Ghz / 22" & 17" ADC Monitors / 400 GB............ behringer mixer
• iMac G5 / 1.8 Ghz / 17" / 250 GB
Offline
#11 2008-05-11 8:28 am
- Funkey Monkey
- Il Maestro spettacolare

- From: On the podium.
- Registered: 2003-01-27
- Posts: 1367
- Website
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
willywalloo wrote:
Hey, you'd only want a G5, if you want a computer that will last you into the future.
Getting on the internet any more isn't an really a viable option in Mac OS 9. While 9 is good for old software programs to run, it's not good when it comes to being compatible with the rest of the world without a lot of headache.
An iMac G5 can be had for around the 400-500 $ mark if you keep your eyes peeled. Then: at least OS X will be there for any other needs you may have.
1. It hasn't been explicitly said yet: A G5 cannot boot into OS 9. A G4 was the last computer that could. A G5 can run "classic" applications within OS X, but I've had a lot of mixed success with classic mode. (Especially regarding access to CD-ROMs, and graphics display.)
2. You can still find OS 9 distros of great email programs like Eudora. And iCab is still currently supporting an OS 9 build of their browser, which is a thoroughly modern browser. If I remember, you might not be able to run flash in OS 9 --- so no YouTube. But iCab works perfectly well with good ol' webmail, if you need email on your OS 9 machine.
Offline
#12 2008-05-21 6:22 pm
- pkmgarf
- Member
- From: Sussex, WI
- Registered: 2007-06-13
- Posts: 459
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
When I got my G4 is was running OS 9.0, and did so perfectly fine. It was a dual 500mhz at the time. I'd say it really depends on what you are looking to do. For most programs, I'm sure an older G4 would be fine. You could run classic or actually boot OS 9 that way.
Offline
#13 2008-05-23 10:25 pm
- b190again
- Looking outside

- Registered: 2004-03-04
- Posts: 153
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
Can the G4 Mac Minis run OS9 natively?
Offline
#14 2008-05-23 11:48 pm
- FutureDreamz
- 1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55

- From: カナダ
- Registered: 2007-01-07
- Posts: 4502
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
According to the Monkey of Funk, yeah.
Thanks for clicking.
Offline
#15 2008-05-24 1:42 am
- pkmgarf
- Member
- From: Sussex, WI
- Registered: 2007-06-13
- Posts: 459
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
All hail the monkey of funk.
Offline
#16 2008-05-24 9:49 am
- dvpierce
- Negusa Negest
- Moderator

- From: Minneapolis, MN
- Registered: 1999-08-30
- Posts: 16800
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
b190again wrote:
Can the G4 Mac Minis run OS9 natively?
No, they cannot.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86209
http://8help.osu.edu/1257.html
"Now commences the process of cutting off the head, which generally takes from an hour to an hour and a half by an expert workman with a sharp blade." -Reuben Delano, Wanderings and Adventures
Offline
#17 2008-05-24 9:50 am
- dvpierce
- Negusa Negest
- Moderator

- From: Minneapolis, MN
- Registered: 1999-08-30
- Posts: 16800
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
FutureDreamz wrote:
According to the Monkey of Funk, yeah.
Do NOT misconstrue the words of the Monkey of Funk. He said a G4 was the last, not all G4s.
All hail.
"Now commences the process of cutting off the head, which generally takes from an hour to an hour and a half by an expert workman with a sharp blade." -Reuben Delano, Wanderings and Adventures
Offline
#18 2008-05-24 7:54 pm
- FutureDreamz
- 1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55

- From: カナダ
- Registered: 2007-01-07
- Posts: 4502
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
dvpierce wrote:
FutureDreamz wrote:
According to the Monkey of Funk, yeah.
Do NOT misconstrue the words of the Monkey of Funk. He said a G4 was the last, not all G4s.
All hail.
oh, well.
All hæl the Monkey of Funk.
Thanks for clicking.
Offline
#19 2008-07-23 10:57 am
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
I own the last OS 9 bootable Mac. Dual 1 Ghz G4 Quicksilver 2002.
Dirty Skies - Experiences in Urban Backyard Astronomy
Offline
#20 2008-07-23 3:16 pm
- ephemeron
- Member
- Registered: 2003-06-23
- Posts: 225
Re: Ultimate OS9 Mac
The last Mac models that could boot OS 9 came out in the summer of 2002; the highest-end of those, I think, was the 1.25GHz version of the model StrawHand has. You might be able to find a processor upgrade or a Mac that a previous owner upgraded (Daniel, is that how you got a Digital Audio G4 with that clock speed?).
If you go the Classic route: Do you already have an OS 9.2 installation disc? I'm not sure when Apple stopped including those with OS X, but it was sometime before 10.4.
Offline

