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#1 2008-03-24 5:06 pm

jerr3d
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Is using Frames obsolete ?

i personally prefer sites without them, but maybe that's just me...

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#2 2008-03-24 5:10 pm

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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

I think you shouldn't have to use them in most cases.


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#3 2008-03-24 5:45 pm

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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

Outlook Web Access uses them.

They're here to stay, I guess.


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#4 2008-03-25 10:15 am

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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

Like most things, they have their uses.

Trouble is, they're widely abused, too.

.tsooJ

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#5 2008-03-25 12:37 pm

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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

Alien wrote:

Like most things, they have their uses.

Trouble is, they're widely abused, too.

.tsooJ

I'd agree with that. Safest rule is to not use em wink

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#6 2008-04-23 10:03 pm

Chris Thomson
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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

PHUSMC wrote:

I think you shouldn't have to use them in most cases.

Yeah, I think if you're questioning it, you shouldn't have to use them.

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#7 2008-05-20 1:30 pm

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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

With all the wonderful tricks you can do with CSS I don't see any point in them.  Of course, I feel the same way about tables-based designs, too.


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#8 2008-05-21 1:26 am

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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

The last I heard, the term used to describe the official status of frames was "deprecated".


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#9 2008-05-26 2:49 am

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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

Metacell wrote:

The last I heard, the term used to describe the official status of frames was "deprecated".

You should stop listening to whoever you're listening to.


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#10 2008-05-26 6:49 pm

Stan
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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

Gipetto wrote:

Metacell wrote:

The last I heard, the term used to describe the official status of frames was "deprecated".

You should stop listening to whoever you're listening to.

Yeah, the W3C seems to give their OK here  and here.

But, there are few good reasons for using 'em.

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#11 2008-05-27 12:39 pm

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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

Gipetto wrote:

Metacell wrote:

The last I heard, the term used to describe the official status of frames was "deprecated".

You should stop listening to whoever you're listening to.

It's deprecated in xhtml 1.1, but xhtml 1.1 provides a replacement by way of a module.

Stan wrote:

But, there are few good reasons for using 'em.

I can think of one... and really only one and that's to hide content from search engines. I'm sure others have other uses, but that's the only practical use I can think of off hand.


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#12 2008-05-27 2:15 pm

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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

Frames have been removed from the html5 draft spec.

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#13 2008-05-27 8:24 pm

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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

Oh, me and my big mouth...


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#14 2008-05-27 8:44 pm

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Re: Is using Frames obsolete ?

Gipetto wrote:

Oh, me and my big mouth...

Yeah, ya provided new life to a zombie.

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