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I'm just wanting to know why we can't pre-order iPhones...or why we can't switch to me.com now...

Hardware wise, they had to offer GPS but what about the camera?  No increase in megapixels is ok but I was hoping for video recording.  And software-wise, can we please get voice dialing?

Yeah it is starting to look like some of the rumor mongers are more innovative than apple these days.

The video conferencing thing has been flying around the internet for months and would have been a huge step forward for the iphone.

One thing someone I was talking to brought up the fact that pricing can keep some of these key features away. I kind of call BS on that. People waited in line for hrs to get the iphone 1.0 at $599 for 4gb of space, sure the price drop is awesome but why not do what they do for the laptops:

If you want an entry level iphone go for the 8gb (macbook)

If you want a mid-level with more features 16gb (macbook pro 15inch)

If you want the big dog top tier - 32gb+ w/ video conference (macbook pro 17inch)

People would have an iphone for each budget just like the ipod did with the nano and the shuffle. Why should the phone cater to the lower end brackets at the suffering of features that people like myself would be willing to pay for.

I would pay $399/$499 for a 32gb iphone with the features it was supposed to have.

RBP2005 wrote:

Yeah it is starting to look like some of the rumor mongers are more innovative than apple these days.

The video conferencing thing has been flying around the internet for months and would have been a huge step forward for the iphone.

One thing someone I was talking to brought up the fact that pricing can keep some of these key features away. I kind of call BS on that. People waited in line for hrs to get the iphone 1.0 at $599 for 4gb of space, sure the price drop is awesome but why not do what they do for the laptops:

If you want an entry level iphone go for the 8gb (macbook)

If you want a mid-level with more features 16gb (macbook pro 15inch)

If you want the big dog top tier - 32gb+ w/ video conference (macbook pro 17inch)

People would have an iphone for each budget just like the ipod did with the nano and the shuffle. Why should the phone cater to the lower end brackets at the suffering of features that people like myself would be willing to pay for.

I would pay $399/$499 for a 32gb iphone with the features it was supposed to have.

I wonder how much of our perceived lack of expected features is due to the noticeably missing partner in action, AT&T?  I hope they don't become the new Motorola, unable to keep up the pace that Apple sets and slowing innovation.

Edit:

Just noticed an article on Gizmodospeaking to the same issues we're discussing.  They list missing:

A 32GB model
A better camera
More RAM
MMS
A2DP Bluetooth for stereo streaming
A camera on the front for videoconferencing
Video capabilities
Turn-by-turn navigation (will come with a 3rd party app, I'm sure)
The ability to copy and paste

I had forgotten about my annoyance about lack of MMS.

Last edited by jeremiah256 (2008-06-09 4:12 pm)

why is the front of the white iphone black?

it reminds me of the black and white cookie from seinfeld.

$10 more, i heard. that includes GPS

Yes, $10 More
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08 … .3g.plans/

So $240 in additional charges to compensate for the new "less expensive" Iphone

LukeLucas wrote:

i'm throwing this out there...

2 years ago, this thread would already be five pages long. now, its barely breaking over 20 posts.

what's happened to Mac|Life Forums?

Indeed, there isn't even an iPhone 3G thread.
As for me I just have anything to say. No MacOS news (10.6, but there isn't much said for the moment) No Mac hardware.. Nothing Macintosh.

The iPhone is all swell, but I've had portable devices that did funny stuff before, and I always got tired of them, so I know the iPhone isn't for me. It's not the nice interface that will change much about that.

.me bah, it's .Mac. I have no calendar, no contact list, no mail synching. Web hosting is better elsewhere.

What is there to debate?
Was there more to debate before?
Is it Apple or is it us?

Aaron_R wrote:

I could easily live with a wired phone line if i had to. because thats what a phone is for, just talking.

Honestly with statements like that, no wonder people think you live in a cave.  If you could live without a cell phone than you are out of touch with at least 80% of the population below the age of 30.  Just because YOU could doesn't mean smurf!  YOU are weird.

Sure, maybe you don't have many friends, so not being able to get calls while you're not in your cave and therefore missing out on socializing after school/work etc is not important.  Maybe you like arriving home from the grocery store, just to have to go back again because your spouse realized he/she forgot to put something on the list and couldn't call you to add it.

Take a cell phone away from a teenager for even 1 day and it's torture.  A cell phone is a social necessity for the younger generations.

Aaron_R wrote:

All these 'new features' it's a frickin cell phone. what are phones for talking!

I don't think that it is unreasonable to use a phone for more than "talking".  It can be used to "communicate" in broader terms, using text, videos, pictures etc.  It can also be a gateway to access almost limitless information on the internet from anywhere in the country.  Finally it can be used to store and carry a degree of personal information far beyond what the human brain can handle.  Contacts, Images, Sounds, Directions, Notes, Calendars etc.

I don't think sending an SMS while you're in a meeting and can't talk is using it as a toy.  I don't think using the GPS to get foolproof directions to your job interview so you don't miss it is using it as a toy either.

I know there aren't any roads or anything near your cave but just trust the rest of us on this one.  It's really useful.

Computers were originally just for scientific and mathematic computations!  Things evolve!  Developing phones that do more than make calls makes them toys no more than developing computers that go beyond crunching numbers makes them toys!

I'm dissapointed that they still don't offer a way to receive multimedia messages. You would think the iPhone would be able to receive a frickin' picture!

iboy wrote:

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Take a cell phone away from a teenager for even 1 day and it's torture.  A cell phone is a social necessity for the younger generations.

Yeah, that's the start of the many things wrong with you teens.

That's it. I am so totally suing The Future for a Deprived Past. How did we live before cellphones, texting or (my GOD) the Internet.

iboy wrote:

I think Steve wants everyone to send an email instead but I get how sometimes you want to send a picture to/from a phone that doesn't have email support.

Well, the Steve is like, 50, so you can't expect him to be as hip as you.