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#1 2008-06-18 3:24 pm

Rik
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Firefox 3.0 problems

I'm finding a host of character-rendering and line-spacing problems with the new Firefox 3.0.

For example, MacLife.com's headlines and other display type are shown in Times, and not the site's standard sans serif font.

Macworld.com's headlines do not appear in Times, but all the characters are piling up upon one another, making the headlines unreadable.

Also, my personal resume site and blog (www.myslewski.com) experiences multiple character-rendering problems (mostly too-wide kerning), and line breaks that now appear where they're clearly not in the code. 

It appears as if Firefox 3.0 is misinterpreting CSS data. Possibly. Maybe.

However, when I installed Firefox 3.0 on a couple of other Macs running 10.5.3 here at Chez Polonaise, none of them exhibit the same problems as does Firefox on my dual 2.7GHz Power Mac G5 running OS 10.5.3.

Yes, I've dumped and rebuilt all the appropriate plist and other support files, cleared all caches (including System-font caches), but I'm still experiencing what appear to be CSS problems.

Any suggestions from anyone?

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#2 2008-06-18 3:34 pm

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Re: Firefox 3.0 problems

At least it's running. On my IBM Thinkpad it won't load a single page.


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#3 2008-06-18 4:00 pm

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Re: Firefox 3.0 problems

I'm not having any kerning or line-break problems on your site using Firefox 3.0 with Windows XP here.


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#4 2008-06-18 4:12 pm

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Re: Firefox 3.0 problems

D'Eyncourt wrote:

I'm not having any kerning or line-break problems on your site using Firefox 3.0 with Windows XP here.

Yeah, your website looks OK on my Intel Mac with FF 3.0, no problems that I can see shrug

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#5 2008-06-18 5:35 pm

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Re: Firefox 3.0 problems

kamizuno wrote:

D'Eyncourt wrote:

I'm not having any kerning or line-break problems on your site using Firefox 3.0 with Windows XP here.

Yeah, your website looks OK on my Intel Mac with FF 3.0, no problems that I can see shrug

Ditto.

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#6 2008-06-18 7:18 pm

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Re: Firefox 3.0 problems

Following a suggestion from someone at MacInTouch, I installed Firefox 3.0 on another user area of my Power Mac G5, and -- presto! -- it works just fine.

So, of course, there's something in my home user area that's screwing up Firefox 3.0 -- but what could it be?  And why doesn't whatever the culprit is also screw up Firefox 2.0.0.14, which runs like a champ?

More investigation is needed -- all suggestions are welcome.

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#7 2008-06-18 8:34 pm

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Re: Firefox 3.0 problems

Corrupt font? actually, the user Library folder has like a zillion files in it, so I have no real idea what's causing your problem, just throwing ideas out there confused


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#8 2008-06-18 8:49 pm

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Re: Firefox 3.0 problems

Here is a possible fix:

In a terminal window enter all in one line (copy paste):

For Leopard
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user

For Tiger
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user

Hit return, wait for the normal prompt and restart.

Caveat= many apps after the kill think you are starting them for the first time.


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#9 2008-06-18 9:04 pm

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Re: Firefox 3.0 problems

It's also possible that the display problems have something to do with the 209 errors in the xhtml on the maclife.com home page. (For reference, jslint stops attempting to validate the document's javascript before it's finished validating 1% of the document).

Your own site has 24 xhtml errors. That's not uncommon, but I would correct the xhtml before blaming Firefox.

The javascript on your site also does not validate using jslint.


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#10 2008-06-18 10:12 pm

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Re: Firefox 3.0 problems

Safari FOREVAH!

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#11 2008-06-18 11:02 pm

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Re: Firefox 3.0 problems

Try changing to a different theme as well.


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#12 2008-06-18 11:57 pm

Rik
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Re: Firefox 3.0 problems

matt wrote:

Your own site has 24 xhtml errors. That's not uncommon, but I would correct the xhtml before blaming Firefox.

Dy-no-mite!  I'll clear those errors and check again -- but the question still remains as to what changed between Firefox 2.0.0.14 and 3.0 that caused the screw-ups to surface, and why do they appear on Firefox 3.0 launched from my user area, and not from other user areas on the same Power Mac?  And why don't they appear on other Macs running Firefox 3.0?  It still seems more likely that there's some Badness™ in my user Library that I need to track down -- too bad that I have 52,348 files in that Library...

But I'll try the XHTML fixes (most are pretty minor) and see if that helps.

Thanks.

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#13 2008-06-19 12:09 am

Rik
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Re: Firefox 3.0 problems

Basil wrote:

Here is a possible fix:

In a terminal window enter all in one line (copy paste):

For Leopard
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user

For Tiger
/System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user

Hit return, wait for the normal prompt and restart.

Caveat= many apps after the kill think you are starting them for the first time.

I'd feel a bit more comfortable doing this if you'd explain what it actually does -- and although I'm used to using kill with a PID as an argument, what's with the -domain local -domain system -domain user argument?  I don't see those processes when I run top.

(Yeah, okay, so I'm advertising my ignorance...)

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