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#1 2008-06-23 1:06 am
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iBook G3
So my new friend has an iBook G3 600MHz 384 MB of ram and Tiger. $150 Yay or Nay?
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#2 2008-06-23 5:53 am
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Primitive as it sounds, it's still a laptop and its still usable, and its still OS X. So I say, reasonable. For me it would depend on the resolution. If its only 800x600, then forget it.
Oh yeah, how much drive space?
EDIT: Wait a minute--Tiger? I guess if it's got firewire, its compatible. My G3 imac ran Panther OK-ish.
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#3 2008-06-23 8:15 am
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Re: iBook G3
Metacell wrote:
Primitive as it sounds, it's still a laptop and its still usable, and its still OS X. So I say, reasonable.
I agree. Tho it would scare me if this is a potential switcher. My brother picked up a similarly ancient machine, decided Macs were too slow, and went back to Windows. No reasoning with him there.
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#4 2008-06-23 8:19 am
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Re: iBook G3
Nay.
The G3 iBooks suffer from short lifespan.
Aw, he's no fun, he fell right over.
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#5 2008-06-23 8:22 am
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he's got a candy imac pottymouth, and the ibook is speedier.
150 sounds good to me. but max ram and fastest hard drive you can put in there.
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#6 2008-06-23 10:00 am
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Re: iBook G3
NSX wrote:
he's got a candy imac pottymouth, and the ibook is speedier.
ohhh. I read the post as the friend bought the ibook.
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#7 2008-06-23 2:41 pm
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Re: iBook G3
It's 1024x768 and 30 gig hard drive
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#8 2008-06-23 3:05 pm
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Re: iBook G3
My friend used his 500mhz iBook (which I happily overclocked to 650mhz with a 100mhz bus
) until just two months ago, when he finally upgarded to a 1.25Ghz G4 model.
The 650 was hist first Mac, and instead of get rid of it, he's decided to keep it alongside his new laptop.
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#10 2008-06-23 4:22 pm
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Re: iBook G3
Since it is a G3 iBook, you can increase the RAM by replacing the 256 MB stick in its single RAM slot with a 512 MB stick (for a total of 640 MB). Other World Computing has one for US$44.
The hard drive is a different matter. While you can put in any ATA/IDE 2.5-inch drive that is 9.5 mm thick (there are models which are 12.5 mm thick) so you could put in up to 250 GBs, the process for doing so is rather difficult and time-consuming. I suggest taking a look at the iFixIt guide for your iBook and see if you want to go to the trouble. I had the 500 MHz model and the tough parts were removing the lower case and keeping track of all of the various parts--especially the small ones--that have to come out in order to replace the hard drive.
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#11 2008-06-23 5:57 pm
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Re: iBook G3
dhack21 wrote:
user wrote:
Nay.
The G3 iBooks suffer from short lifespan.Agreed. the video issues on them were horrible
agreed ... my mom's g3 ibook was fixed 4 times for the graphics problems before the extended-extended warrantee ran up. Now I have a paper weight.
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#12 2008-06-23 7:07 pm
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A 600 MHz G3 is still a perfectly usable machine.
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#13 2008-06-24 9:18 am
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Re: iBook G3
D'Eyncourt wrote:
The hard drive is a different matter. While you can put in any ATA/IDE 2.5-inch drive that is 9.5 mm thick (there are models which are 12.5 mm thick) so you could put in up to 250 GBs, the process for doing so is rather difficult and time-consuming. I suggest taking a look at the iFixIt guide for your iBook and see if you want to go to the trouble. I had the 500 MHz model and the tough parts were removing the lower case and keeping track of all of the various parts--especially the small ones--that have to come out in order to replace the hard drive.
I replaced the HD in my iBook when I thought that was the problem with it. It's not too bad if you take your time, follow the guide and tape your screws to the paper guide as you go.
However, the IDE bus in the iBook is limited to a maximum of 128 G, so if you put in a larger drive you won't get the full capacity.
(edit: MINE was limited to 128, a later model may go higher)
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#14 2008-06-24 11:30 am
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Re: iBook G3
mrreet2001 wrote:
dhack21 wrote:
user wrote:
Nay.
The G3 iBooks suffer from short lifespan.Agreed. the video issues on them were horrible
agreed ... my mom's g3 ibook was fixed 4 times for the graphics problems before the extended-extended warrantee ran up. Now I have a paper weight.
Or, you could use a scale check weight and a heat gun to reconnect the solder under the GPU.
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#15 2008-06-24 11:31 am
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user wrote:
D'Eyncourt wrote:
The hard drive is a different matter. While you can put in any ATA/IDE 2.5-inch drive that is 9.5 mm thick (there are models which are 12.5 mm thick) so you could put in up to 250 GBs, the process for doing so is rather difficult and time-consuming. I suggest taking a look at the iFixIt guide for your iBook and see if you want to go to the trouble. I had the 500 MHz model and the tough parts were removing the lower case and keeping track of all of the various parts--especially the small ones--that have to come out in order to replace the hard drive.
I replaced the HD in my iBook when I thought that was the problem with it. It's not too bad if you take your time, follow the guide and tape your screws to the paper guide as you go.
However, the IDE bus in the iBook is limited to a maximum of 128 G, so if you put in a larger drive you won't get the full capacity.
(edit: MINE was limited to 128, a later model may go higher)
regarding the limitation. is it possible to partition a hard drive larger than 128 from another computer and just use it? without speedtools.
Last edited by NSX (2008-06-24 11:32 am)
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DLSuperDrive Tiger uses for stupid intel stuff
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#16 2008-06-24 11:32 am
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Re: iBook G3
Antonio wrote:
mrreet2001 wrote:
dhack21 wrote:
Agreed. the video issues on them were horribleagreed ... my mom's g3 ibook was fixed 4 times for the graphics problems before the extended-extended warrantee ran up. Now I have a paper weight.
Or, you could use a scale check weight and a heat gun to reconnect the solder under the GPU.
have a link to a detailed how-to for this?
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#17 2008-06-24 12:01 pm
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Re: iBook G3
mrreet2001 wrote:
Antonio wrote:
mrreet2001 wrote:
agreed ... my mom's g3 ibook was fixed 4 times for the graphics problems before the extended-extended warrantee ran up. Now I have a paper weight.Or, you could use a scale check weight and a heat gun to reconnect the solder under the GPU.
have a link to a detailed how-to for this?
No, but I could probably walk you through it...
Taking the iBook apart is probably the worst of it.
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#18 2008-06-24 2:56 pm
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Re: iBook G3
NSX wrote:
user wrote:
D'Eyncourt wrote:
The hard drive is a different matter. While you can put in any ATA/IDE 2.5-inch drive that is 9.5 mm thick (there are models which are 12.5 mm thick) so you could put in up to 250 GBs, the process for doing so is rather difficult and time-consuming. I suggest taking a look at the iFixIt guide for your iBook and see if you want to go to the trouble. I had the 500 MHz model and the tough parts were removing the lower case and keeping track of all of the various parts--especially the small ones--that have to come out in order to replace the hard drive.
I replaced the HD in my iBook when I thought that was the problem with it. It's not too bad if you take your time, follow the guide and tape your screws to the paper guide as you go.
However, the IDE bus in the iBook is limited to a maximum of 128 G, so if you put in a larger drive you won't get the full capacity.
(edit: MINE was limited to 128, a later model may go higher)regarding the limitation. is it possible to partition a hard drive larger than 128 from another computer and just use it? without speedtools.
Ah, I forgot about the 128 GB limit. Thanks, user.
No, you cannot get around this problem by partitioning. The limit is due to the hard drive controller not able to address any location larger than 128 GBs, so short of a firmware update for that controller it will only recognize the first 128 GBs of any drive. I think that if you partitioned a drive with another machine that doesn't have the limit, then the computer with the 128 GB limit would attempt to address the other partitions as within the 128 GBs which is, of course, bad news.
Note that this limit may not apply to drives attached via FireWire or USB, being dependent on the limits of that particular FireWire or USB device.
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#19 2008-09-02 11:05 pm
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Re: iBook G3
Antonio wrote:
mrreet2001 wrote:
Antonio wrote:
Or, you could use a scale check weight and a heat gun to reconnect the solder under the GPU.have a link to a detailed how-to for this?
No, but I could probably walk you through it...
Taking the iBook apart is probably the worst of it.
Ohh mah gawd! You must be a cleric that knows Raise Dead or Resurrection! Learn me that heal spell puleeze. I love my MBP, but sometimes I look at my dead iBook and wish I could turn it on sometimes.
But seriously, taking it apart shouldn't be an issue for me, I just need to know exactly what to do when I get there.
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#20 2008-09-03 4:33 pm
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Re: iBook G3
MacMonkey wrote:
Antonio wrote:
mrreet2001 wrote:
have a link to a detailed how-to for this?
No, but I could probably walk you through it...
Taking the iBook apart is probably the worst of it.Ohh mah gawd! You must be a cleric that knows Raise Dead or Resurrection! Learn me that heal spell puleeze. I love my MBP, but sometimes I look at my dead iBook and wish I could turn it on sometimes.
But seriously, taking it apart shouldn't be an issue for me, I just need to know exactly what to do when I get there.
Use the appropriate iFixIt Guide. Fully detailed take-apart guides for most Apple laptops, iPods and iPhones.
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"I think the question now is not whether you went to Vietnam or whether you didn't, whether you fought in the war or fought against the war. I think the only question is whether we can find a president smart enough never to make a mistake like that again"--Molly Ivins, way back in 1992
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#21 2008-09-04 12:14 pm
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Re: iBook G3
No he's asking about the heat gun repair. I found some instructions by googling but I didn't keep the links after I decided to buy another laptop instead. It's a risky trick that should only be done by yourself as a last resort because you could easily fry the GPU. There's supposed to be a company in Texas that will re-flow the solder for you for about $60. One reason I didn't do it was that I heard that this problem is a construction flaw and that it will happen again over time.
Also, that G3 seems soooo slow and creaky last time I used it.
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#22 2008-09-04 12:31 pm
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My 2000 Firewire Pismo G3 held up well over the years (I just sold it). No major problems, except for a long expired PRAM battery and a moderately dimmer screen. And the original power battery still charges. Really well made, probably more sturdy than most current laptops including Apple's.
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#23 2008-09-04 12:41 pm
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Re: iBook G3
adamjg wrote:
My 2000 Firewire Pismo G3 held up well over the years (I just sold it). No major problems, except for a long expired PRAM battery and a moderately dimmer screen. And the original power battery still charges. Really well made, probably more sturdy than most current laptops including Apple's.
thats not an ibook now is it 
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#24 2008-09-04 10:06 pm
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Resurrected zombie from Everyday Tech from months ago, resurrector is split, topic moved to proper forum.
Feel free to lock it if you want.
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#25 2008-09-04 10:38 pm
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mrreet2001 wrote:
adamjg wrote:
My 2000 Firewire Pismo G3 held up well over the years (I just sold it). No major problems, except for a long expired PRAM battery and a moderately dimmer screen. And the original power battery still charges. Really well made, probably more sturdy than most current laptops including Apple's.
thats not an ibook now is it
Thankfully not! 
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