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#1 2008-06-25 4:30 am
yikes upgrade options?
ok i am fixing up this powermac g4 350mhz pci with jaguar & 640ram for my friend
it has 2 hard drives one 20gb5400 my god. and it was partitioned in 3 sections that i could not remove from my powerbook nor the powermac itself. the other is a 60 gig i have no idea wot the speed is. i looked up all the numbers on the drive but to no avail. it too was partitioned in 3 sections but since it wasnt a boot drive repartitioning was nothing.
so i then erased and installed tiger on the 60 gig, & reparitioned the main 20 as a slave.
question 1: there are 2 open hard drive bays. can i just stick in a sata pci card and plug in a newer hard drive w/o any issues? and can i use a hard drive that is over 128 gig as the main drive, as i expect it to be faster on this connection?
question 2: similar but for usb pci card and these to add. will i be able to use a wifi dongle or bt dongle?
question 3: the cd rom, is this also plug and play? and is there a special type of dvd reader i must use?
i have no idea why he's fixing this thing up. i would just trash it and get at least a sawtooth.
in the the end tho, this thing is quite peppy. takes a while to load the grey apple, but after that it's all gravy, even runs garageband 3 while recording live. craziness. and video has no skipping, i was totally surprised that this thing is faster than a vista machine.
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#2 2008-06-25 12:15 pm
- Antonio
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Re: yikes upgrade options?
It's not a bad machine, it's just awkward and a bit misunderstood 
1. A SATA card should work fine in that machine, and drives on a PCI card are normally bootable. As far as the largest capacity drive you can connect to the built-in PATA controller, I think 128Gb is the most that controller will recognize. It's a slowww bus, though, so I would boot and runn off the SATA drive.
2. If you can get a card which has SATA, USB 2.0 and Firewire on one card, I would do it. That saves you a slot. Sonnet makes them, but Sonnet is pricey and there are other manufacturers which sell these cards, with the same quality, on the cheap. If not, just about any USB 2.0/Firewire card will work.
3. Yes. And nearly any DVD ROM drive will work, though I would get a combo drive as they're relatively cheap, or even a DVDRW. Remeber that these can be moved to newer hardware. Also, if you want DVD playback, you'll need a better graphics card. Either an ATI Rage with the DVD decoder (bare minimum, and the decoder chipset for the Yikes machines can be hard to find) or an early PCI Radeon (DVD decoding built-in). Some of the earlier PCI Radeons for Windows are easily flashed to work in a Mac, but for a machine that old, if it's only being used as a workhorse, I would just buy the cheapest Mac-ready Radeon I could find on eBay. That will give you DVD playback, Quartz-Extreme acceleration in OS X, and plenty of 2D zippyness for most apps.
Last edited by Antonio (2008-06-25 12:32 pm)
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#3 2008-06-25 12:21 pm
- Antonio
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Re: yikes upgrade options?
Oh, almost forgot to mention, a wireless or bluetooth dongle will work, though I would check this page to find a card or USB dongle with a compatible chipset.
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#4 2008-06-26 12:42 am
Re: yikes upgrade options?
aye thanks so much antonio. youve answered everything in detail.
Core Mini 1.66ghz 2048ram 320gb
DLSuperDrive Tiger uses for stupid intel stuff
12 Aluminum 1.5ghz 1280ram 250gb
SLSuperDrive Panther uses for Logic Express
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