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Man that does suck - big time!

In contrast, existing T-Mobile customers in The Netherlands can buy the 8Gb version for €1 (one, uno, une, ein) ($1.50) if they sign up for a €44.95 ($70) per month 2 year contract deal (300 mins, 300 texts inclusive).

For any Brit viewers watching that's 79p for the phone and £35pm.



http://www.t-mobile.nl/iphone/tarieven.html

Last edited by Jonski (2008-07-01 1:53 pm)

My contract is up with Verizon at the end of August. I currently pay $39 per month for 400 minutes of just phone service which is all I want and all I want to spend (I hardly use my cell and have a 16GB Touch). The cheapest iPhone package is $60 per month. So as much as I would like to get one, forget that.

Are there any cool phones out there that aren't under Verizon that you can get for my present (or cheaper rate) of $39.00 per month and that are free? I got my smurfy Razor with a two year contract for free and I barely ever use it.

Just as a point of clarification - ALL CURRENT iPhone owners are eligible for the lowest prices for the iPhone 3G.  The "non-eligible" prices are for people who are with ATT, but with a different phone.

So, if you're new to iPhone/ATT altogether, or already with ATT with an iPhone, you can get the 3G for the low price.  If you're with ATT but with any other phone, you may or may not be eligible for the lowest 3G price.

I gotta admit, I'm none-to-thrilled about the new monthly rates, especially the move to drop any amount of free text messages.  It's now going to be $75/month to get the same number of minutes/messages that were previously $60/month.

I'm still debating on whether or not to jump ship over to ATT and get on the iPhone wagon.  I'm going to have to wait until after launch day, get my hands on the new one in-store, etc.   I'm very much on the fence right now.

pottymouth wrote:

Mercury52 wrote:

Just as a point of clarification - ALL CURRENT iPhone owners are eligible for the lowest prices for the iPhone 3G.  The "non-eligible" prices are for people who are with ATT, but with a different phone.

What makes you think that? My account info specifically says tha....waaaait a second. You may be right. That says that the iPhone is not available with the "no commitment option", doesn't it? Boy, am I lost. At least I'm not the only one. I've been reading this same complaint all over the place.

Maybe it's just me but I'm not seeing the almost mad craving for iPhone 2.0 that was around for version 1.  In fact, I'm see much the opposite primarily because of AT&T prices and because of confusion over those prices.  If sales in this economy (which even when better, affected iPhone v1 sales) don't meet expectations and customers point to AT&T as the primary culprit, does Apple have the option to create their own NVO?

jeremiah256 wrote:

pottymouth wrote:

Mercury52 wrote:

Just as a point of clarification - ALL CURRENT iPhone owners are eligible for the lowest prices for the iPhone 3G.  The "non-eligible" prices are for people who are with ATT, but with a different phone.

What makes you think that? My account info specifically says tha....waaaait a second. You may be right. That says that the iPhone is not available with the "no commitment option", doesn't it? Boy, am I lost. At least I'm not the only one. I've been reading this same complaint all over the place.

Maybe it's just me but I'm not seeing the almost mad craving for iPhone 2.0 that was around for version 1.  In fact, I'm see much the opposite primarily because of AT&T prices and because of confusion over those prices.
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Yeah, and how much you want to bet that if lines don't form on July 10th that this will be portrayed as a "failure" for Apple?

I did see this story which said that AT&T may allow uncontracted (but still locked to AT&T services) sales of the iPhone 3G sometime "in the future" for $599 or $699.

They've now changed their wording to be a little clearer.

You have the option to purchase an early upgrade priced at $399 for 8GB (black) or $499 for 16GB (black or white). Two-year contract required. Coming soon, AT&T will offer a no-commitment option of $599 for 8GB and $699 for 16GB.

So I'm reading it the way I orignally read it: New customers and customers at the end of an old contract can get the 199/299 price. Current iPhone owners (who are now no more than a year and a couple days into their contracts) will be paying 399/499. If you wait a while you can get one with no contract but you'll be paying 599/699.

Anybody read that differently?

Wow. So why are AT&T customers getting gouged?
That's sort of the way I see it. Well, without the sort of, that is. $200 more than new customers to upgrade? It's really a bit insulting. I understand they want to attract new customers, but they're eating their own here, by slapping their current customer base in the face. To have an iPhone with AT&T, they're already putting up with anemic, overpriced plans (even if I were paying the full $19.99 a month for T-Mobile's internet, I'd be getting the equivalent of AT&T's highest-priced iPhone plan for a good ~$25 less. As it is, I'm using T-zones for $5.99 and the same speeds).

That sort of adds insult to injury.

I haven't watched the videos either.  I'm going off the text in the link.

"Existing AT&T iPhone Customers

You're immediately eligible to upgrade to iPhone 3G at the $199 upgrade price for the 8GB model, plus an $18 upgrade fee. Alternatively, you can upgrade to the 16GB model for $299 plus the $18 upgrade fee."

and then


"Existing AT&T Customers who don't currently have an iPhone

If you're an existing AT&T customer who has a mobile phone other than an iPhone, you'll first need to determine whether you are eligible for upgrade pricing.

If you're currently eligible for upgrade pricing, you can upgrade to iPhone 3G at the cost of $199 for the 8GB or $299 for the 16GB model, plus an $18 upgrade fee.

If you're not currently eligible for upgrade pricing, you can upgrade to an 8GB iPhone 3G for $399 or the 16GB model for $499."

It's not as grave as everyone is saying. The iPhone is now being treated like any other phone in ATT's eyes.

If I purchase a phone at ATT and I get a free subsidized phone with a 2-year contract, I'm not eligible to get another subsidized phone until my contract is up. I have to pay full price for it. Since we iPhone users were not subsidized last year when we purchased our phones, (we had to pay full price) we are still eligible for a subsidized phone now.

Any ATT customer who recently got a free phone are not eligible for the subsidized iPhone because they haven't paid for their first subsidized phone.

D'Eyncourt wrote:

But you don't understand, pastor macman: I want...no, NEED my new iPhone NOW!!!

INTERVENTION!!


...and Maxine's rates are much more reasonable.

I still don't get whether or not I can keep my existing Voice/Data plan if I should choose to go to the iPhone 3G, or if I'll be forced to fork over the extra cash for the fewer features.

I'm still not sure what that means.  Can I get a 3G iPhone with the iPhone plan I have now, or do I have to pay the new data/text rates?