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#26 2008-08-03 7:21 pm

Tallgeese
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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

ScifiterX wrote:

BTW, vocabulary isn't intelligence. I mean look at how many words Bush added to the dictionary, and he's a moron. Look at how many big words politicians use to say nothing.

The ability to look, listen, learn, & actually solve problems is intelligence.

Command of a large vocabulary is different from using big words.


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#27 2008-08-03 7:24 pm

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

True, especially for someone like you or myself, but not every one knows or believes that.

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#28 2008-08-03 7:33 pm

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

ScifiterX wrote:

BTW, vocabulary isn't intelligence. I mean look at how many words Bush added to the dictionary, and he's a moron. Look at how many big words politicians use to say nothing.

The ability to look, listen, learn, & actually solve problems is intelligence.

An expansive vocabulary is not necessarily indicative of high intelligence, but a stunted one is indicative of low levels of inteligence.


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#29 2008-08-03 7:34 pm

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

Daniel wrote:

ScifiterX wrote:

BTW, vocabulary isn't intelligence. I mean look at how many words Bush added to the dictionary, and he's a moron. Look at how many big words politicians use to say nothing.

The ability to look, listen, learn, & actually solve problems is intelligence.

An expansive vocabulary is not necessarily indicative of high intelligence, but a stunted one is indicative of low levels of inteligence.

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#30 2008-08-03 8:07 pm

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

Farmerkev wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

It's amusing to watch Kev's conviction that he's making a point of some kind.

What was the point of your topic then please.
Do you find it odd that people vote for someone they believe is like themselves?

I don't think that really applies this time around. Because blacks have been voting for people that are decidedly nothing like them for the past few decades, and now some whites are voting for someone that doesn't look like their typical neighbors. And besides, I think most people pick their neighborhood these days based off of what kind of house they can afford, and not worry about their neighbors too much. Chances are if your neighbor is of your same economic status, you shouldn't have too many problems with them.

Why do you suppose they tend to move into neighborhoods with people like themselves or be friends with people like themselves.
This isn't a major mystery.

I'm not sure the answer is as clear as you are implying. If you think it's because people naturally vote for people like themselves, then wouldn't that mean this race is implicitly biased against Obama?


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#31 2008-08-03 8:17 pm

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

mo' ron wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

It's amusing to watch Kev's conviction that he's making a point of some kind.

What was the point of your topic then please.
Do you find it odd that people vote for someone they believe is like themselves?

I don't think that really applies this time around. Because blacks have been voting for people that are decidedly nothing like them for the past few decades, and now some whites are voting for someone that doesn't look like their typical neighbors. And besides, I think most people pick their neighborhood these days based off of what kind of house they can afford, and not worry about their neighbors too much. Chances are if your neighbor is of your same economic status, you shouldn't have too many problems with them.

Why do you suppose they tend to move into neighborhoods with people like themselves or be friends with people like themselves.
This isn't a major mystery.

I'm not sure the answer is as clear as you are implying. If you think it's because people naturally vote for people like themselves, then wouldn't that mean this race is implicitly biased against Obama?

No, you just illustrated what I said with different words.


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#32 2008-08-03 9:36 pm

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

ShnickyShnack wrote:

With "us" presumably meaning some beer-swilling shmoe.

dude! what did i ever do to you? tongue


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#33 2008-08-03 9:51 pm

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

[MA] Flying_Meat wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

With "us" presumably meaning some beer-swilling shmoe.

dude! what did i ever do to you? tongue

Perhaps you suggested that he "get a blog"


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#34 2008-08-03 10:48 pm

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

mo' ron wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

It's amusing to watch Kev's conviction that he's making a point of some kind.

What was the point of your topic then please.
Do you find it odd that people vote for someone they believe is like themselves?

I don't think that really applies this time around. Because blacks have been voting for people that are decidedly nothing like them for the past few decades, and now some whites are voting for someone that doesn't look like their typical neighbors. And besides, I think most people pick their neighborhood these days based off of what kind of house they can afford, and not worry about their neighbors too much. Chances are if your neighbor is of your same economic status, you shouldn't have too many problems with them.

Why do you suppose they tend to move into neighborhoods with people like themselves or be friends with people like themselves.
This isn't a major mystery.

I'm not sure the answer is as clear as you are implying. If you think it's because people naturally vote for people like themselves, then wouldn't that mean this race is implicitly biased against Obama?

Only if race is the only thing that determines whether or not people are "like" each other.



Which it's not.


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#35 2008-08-03 11:50 pm

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

Freakout Jackson wrote:

[MA] Flying_Meat wrote:

ShnickyShnack wrote:

With "us" presumably meaning some beer-swilling shmoe.

dude! what did i ever do to you? tongue

Perhaps you suggested that he "get a blog"

lollollol


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#36 2008-08-04 6:21 am

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

Tallgeese wrote:

ScifiterX wrote:

We want better (smarter/wiser) but not "better" (snobbish/out of touch)

The problem is that if you have a large vocabulary and use it, you're snobbish and out of touch. If you don't watch lowbrow entertainment it's because you think you're better than everyone else. If you don't like coffee, it's because you're snobbish and out of touch. If you tell people that they have to work to solve problems, you're condescending and need to have your nuts cut off.

. . . that if you can actually use the word "condescending" correctly you're a grammar nazi. . .


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#37 2008-08-04 6:22 am

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

Sorry. . . couldn't resist  big_smile


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#38 2008-08-04 1:38 pm

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

Farmerkev wrote:

Freakout Jackson wrote:

Farmerkev wrote:

Umm, this isn't new.

I don't think he said it was.

Shickster wrote:

What the hell is the deal with this? How can it possibly matter whether or not some trailer-park boob can personally identify with the candidate -- to the point where it's become a major, and recurring campaign issue?

You want to go back to Lincoln born in a log cabin and dirt poor or back farther?

Oh, it goes back further than that, with several of the first presidents claiming log cabin births even though they were born in the main house of a plantation or other wealthy landowner dwelling.


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#39 2008-08-04 3:24 pm

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Re: Refusing to vote for someone "snooty" -- wtf???

Fun coincidence: I just hit a description of this very thing happening in 1840 in the book I'm currently reading (Drink: a Social History of America by Andrew Barr -- it's not very well organized, and he gets downright ranty about some subjects, but it's full of interesting stuff).  William Harry Harrison was a Virginia aristocrat and Martin Van Buren the son of a farmer, but the Whigs spun Harrison as a cider-drinking (hard cider was what ordinary guys drank before they drank beer), log-cabin-dwelling war hero and Van Buren as a wine-drinking devotee of French cooking, and Harrison won.  (Though he did die of pneumonia after just a couple of months in office.)

Anyway, the basic paradox that you have to be part of the elite to have a shot at the presidency, but you have to look like a man of the people at the same time, has been part of US politics for a very long time.  And refusal to vote for someone who seems to think too much of himself probably has its roots as part of Americans defining themselves as equal citizens of a republic when the rest of the world was divided into aristocrats and commoners.

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