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Is your photoshop document RGB or CMYK?

In case anyone else is running into this problem, I just solved it by flattening transparency for my artwork in Illustrator and then pasting into Photoshop. When saving an EPS version I noticed the warning for unflattened transparency and figured that probably (and did) have something to do with my Photoshop banding issue in transparent areas.

Ok, thanks for the advice. I need to do a lot of research in this area, especially being new to Illustrator for logo design work. R.I.P. FreeHand...

zoees wrote:

I probably would have left out Illustrator. This is very simple to do in Photoshop.

Transparencies in files actually cause quite a few issues with printing. I have actually had people trying to match a Pantone using stacks of transparencies. Very unreliable.

Transparency isn't the problem, the problem is twofold.
1. People using it that have no clue.
2. People trying to output it with out dated hardware (no PDF trap engine).

almaink wrote:

zoees wrote:

I probably would have left out Illustrator. This is very simple to do in Photoshop.

Transparencies in files actually cause quite a few issues with printing. I have actually had people trying to match a Pantone using stacks of transparencies. Very unreliable.

Transparency isn't the problem, the problem is twofold.
1. People using it that have no clue.
2. People trying to output it with out dated hardware (no PDF trap engine).

1. No doubt
2. People design what looks correct and have no idea how ink actually goes onto a substrate.

35,29,37.25 might look like gray on your monitor but it prints green on my equipment. It's hopeless and too expensive to teach to everyone. So I'll make money, apparently for a very long time.

Aqua OS X wrote:

Eh. Transparency is not the devil. Not everyone uses Illustrator for Print. I use layers and transparency quite frequently for digital media.

That being said, I think I read something about Logo design and gradients up at the top. FYI, gradients can be somewhat of a logo design no no.

Moreover, if you are going to deal with color swatches, buy a color chip book or something. Don't just pick colors out of an Illustrator swatch pallet. They don't look the same when you go to print and you usually want to supply a client with color #'s.

Transparencies work if you know how to work them.

Gradients in logos are a no-no for soooo many reasons. Too many to list.

If you pick colors out of the color square, then yes people will naturally gravitate to whatever is pleasing to the eye, non-printable colors. Opening up the "Coated" swatch library from the "Color books" pull-down goes a long way in letting the printer at least have a heads up. I use Postershop to print gigantic images, Postershop recognizes Pantone names and will refer to an .icm library I built when I created a profile for that particular material. 80% of the time I get acceptable results.

There are other ways of going about it and none of them are perfect. And that's why I drink.

Anywhere the gradient will have to be half-toned, especially if it's two Pantone matches creating the blend.

Even for digital printers, which is what I do, this can be tough. It's only digital until the ink hit's the material.

Whatever though, a ton of logos are guilty and do just fine. I hope they love it.

Last edited by zoees (2008-08-08 8:14 pm)