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Fatum · 2008-06-24 3:42 pm

Is there a way to change all my files that are in pages, numbers, and keynote formats to open document format in one big bunch. I do not want to use a proprietary format for anything anymore, it makes no sense, makes sharing things difficult [especially with windows machines], and will usually take up more disk space. But the main reason being that my laptop is getting old so I am putting Linux on it and pages format will not work in linux. Thanks for the suggestions in advance

Ice Cream Man · 2008-08-06 11:33 pm

How old is this lappy, lets have a little info, and i thought MS Office documents worked in OpenOffice, and iWork exports to MS Office There for if you export to MS office format, you'll be able to open it in O Office.

HOWEVER what the heck is the point in switching. If you machine runs OSX which is derived from FreeBSD which is a linux variant already, then what do you hope to gain. Sounds to me like your machine just needs a little tweaking, and maybe a permissions check.

And as for proprietary formats, everything has them. MSOffices format is proprietary to them; OpenOffices has a format that is specific to it, and so on, with every single program on the planet. You can’t escape it!

Macskeeball · 2008-08-11 12:35 am

Ice Cream Man wrote:
How old is this lappy, lets have a little info, and i thought MS Office documents worked in OpenOffice, and iWork exports to MS Office There for if you export to MS office format, you'll be able to open it in O Office.

Yes, OpenOffice does support MS Office formats, but that still means proprietary formats which Fatum (as well as myself) would prefer to avoid.

If you machine runs OSX which is derived from FreeBSD which is a linux variant already, then what do you hope to gain.

False. OS X is built on top of Darwin and its Mach kernel, and FreeBSD does *NOT* use the Linux kernel (which is all Linux technically is). FreeBSD and OpenBSD code is used for part of the userland, but OS X has many layers on top of that low-level stuff.

And as for proprietary formats, everything has them... OpenOffice has a format that is specific to it

False. OpenOffice has been using the Open Document Formats as its native formats for a good while now.

...and so on, with every single program on the planet. You can’t escape it!

False. Many, many programs use standard formats.

Chickenhawk · 2008-08-11 12:54 am

Ice Cream Man wrote:
HOWEVER what the heck is the point in switching. If you machine runs OSX which is derived from FreeBSD which is a linux variant already, then what do you hope to gain. Sounds to me like your machine just needs a little tweaking, and maybe a permissions check.

Linux has no relation, whatsoever, to any of the BSDs. They are completely separate in development, with BSD stemming from the original AT&T UNIX code, and Linux sharing no heritage to UNIX. They are just two different Unix-like operating systems.

In addition, there are plenty of reasons to put Linux on an aging machine. It is much easier to trim down, and can be equipped with a multitude of different window managers / desktop environments, some of them very cut down, and some of them very rich, like Aqua.

Ice Cream Man · 2008-08-15 9:12 pm

So Linus’s interest in Minix, and then creating something that “exceeded the Minix standards” Had nothing to do with it. That sounds based on UNIX to me, if he was using Minix standards as a template to “exceed.”

Not to mention that makes it the youngest major OS. I suppose the scalability is a good thing. However, you can opt-out of installing lots or things in OSX too. I mean, heck, why not go back to MacOS 9?

Still the “open document format” may as well be proprietary. Does Word or Pages even support importing an open document? I mean, not to sound like a MS fan boy, but you are better off saving as a .doc anyway, because everyone uses it, and it is the most common format for submitting résumé online.

Chickenhawk · 2008-08-15 9:18 pm

Minix is not UNIX either.

Ice Cream Man · 2008-08-15 10:11 pm

"Linus had an interest in Minix, a small UNIX system"

Chickenhawk · 2008-08-15 10:13 pm

I don't know where that quote is from, but there is a big deal of difference between UNIX and Unix-like.

Ice Cream Man · 2008-08-15 11:04 pm

I didn't say it was UNIX. source http://www.linux.org/info/

And so waht if it's not a Linux varriant, they are both both UNIX like. The are both framed as alternative to UNIX, and based from UNIX work. I mean, i really think the difference is about like two different types of delicious apple. Their just acoupel a genetic UNIX mutations.

And i guess if you want half a million settings to mess with and screw up you computer with then far beit from me to stop you. Experiment away.

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