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(just a look in the past):

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases … 10618.html
Q A question to both of you, if I may. President Putin, President Bush has said that he's going to go forward with his missile defense plans basically with or without your blessing. Are you unyielding in your opposition to his missile defense plan? Is there anything you can do to stop it?

And to President Bush. Did President Putin ease your concern at all about the spread of nuclear technologies by Russia, and is this a man that Americans can trust?

PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes. Do you want to go first?

PRESIDENT PUTIN: Now, as far as the issue of antimissile defense, the official position of the Russian government is known. I don't think we need to spend time to yet again declare it. We proceed from the idea that the 1972 ABM Treaty is the cornerstone of the modern architecture of international security. We proceed from the premise that there are elements which unite us with our partners in the United States.

When we hear about things like concerns of the future and about threats from the future, we do agree that together, we have to sit down and have a good think about this. But we proceed from the idea that these concerns and threats are different kinds of things. Threats have to be defined. We have to look at where they come from and then make some decisions as to how we have to counter them.

We feel that we can do it best together. Based upon today's dialogue, I've come to the conclusion, and the impression, that we might have a very constructive development here in this arena; at least the President of the United States listened carefully. He listens to our arguments very carefully. But I think the specialists, as I have said before, have to sit down, have contact to identify the overall platform that we're going to work from, and try to find a way together to solve these problems.

Now, as far as the issues of proliferation and nonproliferation, I have to say that in our opinion, this is a topic that's very, very closely tied to the ABM Treaty, because many other things are hooked onto this same string, and many threshold states, when it comes to the destruction of a previous accord, can only be happy and say, look, fantastic. Yesterday, we were threshold, nobody agreed -- nobody took any account of us; now, today, recognize us. This is a problem we're going to have to really think very hard about.

Can we trust Russia? I'm not going to answer that. I could ask the very same question.

PRESIDENT BUSH: I will answer the question. I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country. And I appreciated so very much the frank dialogue.

There was no kind of diplomatic chit-chat, trying to throw each other off balance. There was a straightforward dialogue. And that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship. I wouldn't have invited him to my ranch if I didn't trust him. (Laughter.)

Last edited by Proost (2008-08-18 2:35 am)

Not to worry, Condi's on the case!

On her way to an emergency NATO foreign ministers meeting on the crisis, Rice said the alliance would punish Russia for its invasion of the Georgia and deny its ambitions by rebuilding and fully backing Georgia and other Eastern European democracies.

"We have to deny Russian strategic objectives, which are clearly to undermine Georgia's democracy, to use its military capability to damage and in some cases destroy Georgian infrastructure and to try and weaken the Georgian state," she said.

"We are determined to deny them their strategic objective," Rice told reporters aboard her plane, adding that any attempt to recreate the Cold War by drawing a "new line" through Europe and intimidating former Soviet republics and ex-satellite states into submission would fail.

"We are not going to allow Russia to draw a new line at those states that are not yet integrated into the trans-Atlantic structures," she said, referring to Georgia and Ukraine, which have not yet joined NATO or the European Union but would like to.

Rice could not say what NATO would eventually decide to do to make its position clear but said the alliance would speak with one voice "to clearly indicate that we are not accepting a new line."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G202ne2b … re=related

Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov discusses the conflict with Georgia on CNN.

Btw today I trust Russia more then the United states/Nato/Europe.
Just look at the United states and their allies did in Iraq and still can say this, they all join together to be against Russia, placing an anti missile system in Poland (never forget Poland .

Already I can see in my own country that the EU is 2 reasons, power and money, not for the people.

To me it looks the west is trying to make Russia weak for several reasons I can imagine.

Last edited by Proost (2008-08-18 5:13 pm)

jerwin wrote:

Why do you trust Russia? Do you you trust that they will cut off your gas?

They won't, or you must make enemy's from them. They make good money with selling gas and now Russia is getting richer again, they must be become dangerous for us?

Just believe our media, the US thought communism was the worst treat to their power so they removed governments and fought communism where possible, people dying, who cares?

Metacell wrote:

What should Russia have done while we were murdering the Sandinistas?

But "we" weren't really "doing" "that".

If anything, they could have interfered with the Iraq invasion, but our being bogged down there works out to their benefit. I bet every time Condi leaves the room, she hears muffled laughter.

Can't resist:

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind
Oh, come on
Hu Hey Hu, hey, ah, yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah
I'm back in the USSR
You don't know how lucky you are, boys
Back in the USSR