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#1 2008-08-22 12:07 pm
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Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
I just installed OS X 10.5 on my G5 and also Quark 6.5, but somehow some of the Quark functions are not working properly and either the program stalls or quits by itself (ie. Save As saves just an alias and not an original copy, adding pages stalls the program, exporting a document as PDF makes the whole program act weird, etc). Anyone else having similar problems with Quark 6.5 and Leopard??
Is it a program error or a system thing??
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#2 2008-08-22 12:32 pm
Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
6.5 is pretty old by now ('05 or 06). Quark's been at ver. 7 ('07) for awhile and 8 series is just out this year. OS X 10.5 is brand new (late '07). I think that should telling you something -- like you need to either upgrade Quark or go back to 10.3 or 10.4 OS X.
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#3 2008-08-22 1:01 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
besides upgrading, are there are solutions to this??
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#4 2008-08-22 1:07 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
QuarkXpress v6.5 should work fine with Leonard. IF you have the 6.52 update added.
There is a bug with the Space/Align function, though.
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#5 2008-08-22 1:09 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
I'll try that and see. To one one bug vs. having like 9 bugs... I'll take the Space/Align bug.
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#6 2008-08-22 1:10 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
MacWorld says Quark says "QuarkXPress 6.5 is not compatible with Leopard." I'd believe it. They released the 7.31 update when Quark 7 and Leopard didn't get along. Of course, they never went back to update older versions.
Other solutions? Q2ID will open those Quark files in InDesign 
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#7 2008-08-22 1:21 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
pottymouth wrote:
MacWorld says Quark says "QuarkXPress 6.5 is not compatible with Leopard." I'd believe it. They released the 7.31 update when Quark 7 and Leopard didn't get along. Of course, they never went back to update older versions.
Quark are lying because they want to sell upgrades. MacWorld are wrong because they are ill-informed hacks.
Because of the nature of what I do I have Xpress v6, v7 and v8 on my system and they all work.
Version 6.5 is much crapness compared to the two later versions but it still works with the x.x.2 upgrade.
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Other solutions? Q2ID will open those Quark files in InDesign
Yep. I'd recommend that. IF you want to spend twice as long doing anything and have no social life. Bwahahahaha!!
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#8 2008-08-25 3:23 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
I receive less and less Quark files every month- go figure.
Then again I've noticed a lot of people doing their work in the wrong program to begin with. Why on earth would you create a design for a banner that's going to be twenty foot by forty foot in Quark or Indesign?
Things get pretty stupid when you're working at 1/20th scale.
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#9 2008-08-26 1:49 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
yeah, well... problems still persist. 
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#10 2008-08-26 2:06 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
I agree about not doing large projects in Quark. I printed a 20 x 20 foot banner that had a 6 inch error in an overlap that you just couldn't see in Quark because the magnification was so limited.
However, Indesign will allow you magnify much, much more. It's my program of choice for large projects, especially when the project involves bitmaps over 500 meg, which will simply bring Illustrator to its knees. Indesign works with a proxy file and just ticks right along.
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#11 2008-08-28 10:02 am
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
user wrote:
I agree about not doing large projects in Quark. I printed a 20 x 20 foot banner that had a 6 inch error in an overlap that you just couldn't see in Quark because the magnification was so limited.
However, Indesign will allow you magnify much, much more. It's my program of choice for large projects, especially when the project involves bitmaps over 500 meg, which will simply bring Illustrator to its knees. Indesign works with a proxy file and just ticks right along.
I've never seen any of your stuff. Not sure what you are try to accomplish with that 500 meg raster image.
I print banners that large or larger all the time. You's be surprised what happens to your file when it get's to the printer.
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#12 2008-08-28 11:00 am
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
zoees wrote:
user wrote:
I agree about not doing large projects in Quark. I printed a 20 x 20 foot banner that had a 6 inch error in an overlap that you just couldn't see in Quark because the magnification was so limited.
However, Indesign will allow you magnify much, much more. It's my program of choice for large projects, especially when the project involves bitmaps over 500 meg, which will simply bring Illustrator to its knees. Indesign works with a proxy file and just ticks right along.I've never seen any of your stuff. Not sure what you are try to accomplish with that 500 meg raster image.
I print banners that large or larger all the time. You's be surprised what happens to your file when it get's to the printer.
I'll guess: you EPS it and place it in a Quark file because your RIP is outdated?
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#13 2008-08-28 12:44 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
Our clients send us those big files. I reduce them if I can but since a lot of our stuff goes on vehicles and gets a closer viewing I can't always do that.
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#14 2008-11-11 1:33 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
I've just cracked it:
I upgraded to Leopard and suddenly Quark wouldn't export to pdf, even after upgrading to 6.52. Eventually I found you could get something out if you go via the print menu, but it came out on a piece of background the size of France.
Anyway - I've got one quark doc to export like this:
- Apple+P to get the print menu up
- Page set up... > paper size > manage custom sizes > input paper size in cm (e.g. 29.7 x 21.0) and set all margins to zero > OK
- Printer... > PDF > save as PDF
Good luck out there - and thanks for letting me stand on the shoulders of giants.
By the way, I know it's 3 years old, but if it hits a near-terminal glitch after 3 years what are you paying for??? My car's 14 years old and Quark hasn't done 94,000 miles.
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#15 2008-11-11 1:44 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
user wrote:
I agree about not doing large projects in Quark. I printed a 20 x 20 foot banner that had a 6 inch error in an overlap that you just couldn't see in Quark because the magnification was so limited.
I never used Quark, but in PageMaker and Indesign (hell, even in Word) you can position/size things numerically to within 0.01". I still have to stifle screams of terror when I see somebody working at 50% zoom in any program just draw a box freehand and be like, "well, that's even-looking."
However, Indesign will allow you magnify much, much more. It's my program of choice for large projects, especially when the project involves bitmaps over 500 meg, which will simply bring Illustrator to its knees. Indesign works with a proxy file and just ticks right along.
Yeah, it's nice that way.
Still, if the layout is done right, it shouldn't matter whether your magnifying it 200% or 5000%.
(And yeah, what I'm trying to imply here is that either your RIP burped, or whoever did the layout should be tarred and feathered.)
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#16 2008-11-11 1:50 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
777ok wrote:
By the way, I know it's 3 years old, but if it hits a near-terminal glitch after 3 years what are you paying for??? My car's 14 years old and Quark hasn't done 94,000 miles.
Hi and welcome to the computer world.
Average upgrade interval for hardware is 24-36 months depending on the demographic. Most software gets updated with a major revision twice that often. If you're lucky it'll be a free or cheap upgrade to what you have, but if you're unlucky? Well, yeah.
When you plunk down hundreds of dollars on a piece of software, it's best to think of it not as buying a product, but making a large up front payment to an ongoing subscription.
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#17 2008-11-11 2:33 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
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user wrote:
I agree about not doing large projects in Quark. I printed a 20 x 20 foot banner that had a 6 inch error in an overlap that you just couldn't see in Quark because the magnification was so limited.
I never used Quark, but in PageMaker and Indesign (hell, even in Word) you can position/size things numerically to within 0.01". I still have to stifle screams of terror when I see somebody working at 50% zoom in any program just draw a box freehand and be like, "well, that's even-looking."
However, Indesign will allow you magnify much, much more. It's my program of choice for large projects, especially when the project involves bitmaps over 500 meg, which will simply bring Illustrator to its knees. Indesign works with a proxy file and just ticks right along.
Yeah, it's nice that way.
Still, if the layout is done right, it shouldn't matter whether your magnifying it 200% or 5000%.
(And yeah, what I'm trying to imply here is that either your RIP burped, or whoever did the layout should be tarred and feathered.)
Tarred and feathered. The banner should have been produced using Illustrator, but it was done by an ad agency and at that time (late 90s), ad agencies seemed to do EVERYTHING in Quark.
Most artistic folk find it difficult to use numerical increments - it's all visual.
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#18 2008-11-11 3:24 pm
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Re: Quark 6.5 and Leopard 10.5
user wrote:
Most artistic folk find it difficult to use numerical increments - it's all visual.
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