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#1 2008-09-21 9:16 pm
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Do Plants Need Sleep?
I have built a little indoor greenhouse enclosure to grow kitchen herbs and such over the winter months. Basically just a box with several "grow lights".
I have researched nesisary lighting amounts, soil mixtures, ambient temps and such but one basic question I havent seen answered anywhere:
Is it better to just leave the lights on 24/7 or should I turn them off at night to emulate a natural light cycle?
Anyone with a green thumb care to help me out?
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#2 2008-09-22 9:38 am
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Re: Do Plants Need Sleep?
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that plants are diurnal, just like us. I know when you're growing... er... other more smoke-able herbs it is suggested that you give them 12 hours of light and 12 hours of dark.
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#3 2008-09-22 11:02 am
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#5 2008-09-22 4:56 pm
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Re: Do Plants Need Sleep?
Pithecanthropus wrote:
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that plants are diurnal, just like us. I know when you're growing... er... other more smoke-able herbs it is suggested that you give them 12 hours of light and 12 hours of dark.
Ya, That was my thought but it wouldn't be the first time the intuitive answer was actually the wrong one.
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#6 2008-09-22 8:58 pm
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I can hypnotize bricks.
Would that help?
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#7 2008-09-23 12:14 am
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When I was in school I read about an interesting story. It seemed that all the trees along a city's main street started dying, and it took an expert to figure it out.
The city had been having trouble with crime, so they took out the old lamps and installed new, REALLY bright ones all along the street. The trees grew during the day, never got the chance to stop at night, and began dying.
No idea how the story turned out, whether they removed the lights or the trees, but it would seem to suggest that you can over-light your plants.
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#8 2008-09-23 12:26 am
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Re: Do Plants Need Sleep?
Yes, most plants do require a sun light cycle (temperature too). Different plants have different needs due to differences in their metabolism (see C3, C4, and CAM plants). Unfortunately, I'm not a botanist so I can't really explain this indepth.
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#10 2008-09-23 1:20 pm
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If that Magic School Bus episode taught me anything, it's that I should've stayed home from school today. I mean maybe.
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#11 2008-09-23 4:24 pm
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Re: Do Plants Need Sleep?
Pithecanthropus wrote:
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that plants are diurnal, just like us. I know when you're growing... er... other more smoke-able herbs it is suggested that you give them 12 hours of light and 12 hours of dark.
Start out 18 on and 6 off. That's a good long day. When you're ready for them to mature switch to 12 on and 12 off. Long day to short day, just like summer to fall.
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#12 2008-09-23 5:56 pm
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/me waits for the partyvan
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#13 2008-09-23 7:07 pm
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Some flowering plants need darkness in order to close their flowers--the cells triggering the opening/closing are light-sensitive. If not do not close, then the flowers don't have a chance to replenish themselves (make pollen, build nectar) and likely won't be able to make seeds because they won't be properly pollinated.
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#14 2008-09-23 9:27 pm
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I would Google for a local hydroponics store. Those folks are going to know a lot about growing plants indoors and they usually love to talk shop. You might also want to check out a local nursery.
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#15 2008-09-24 5:58 am
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Re: Do Plants Need Sleep?
Aqua OS X wrote:
I would Google for a local hydroponics store. Those folks are going to know a lot about growing plants indoors and they usually love to talk shop. You might also want to check out a local nursery.
Ordinarily that would be good advice.
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#16 2008-09-24 9:23 am
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Aqua OS X wrote:
You might also want to check out a local nursery.
Totally, dude! It's usually a MILF-o-rama!
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#17 2008-09-24 5:31 pm
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Re: Do Plants Need Sleep?
Pithecanthropus wrote:
Aqua OS X wrote:
You might also want to check out a local nursery.
Totally, dude! It's usually a MILF-o-rama!
That's very true. I worked at a nursery when I was in my 20s. Good times 
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#18 2008-09-26 6:28 am
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zoees wrote:
Start out 18 on and 6 off. That's a good long day. When you're ready for them to mature switch to 12 on and 12 off. Long day to short day, just like summer to fall.
Field crops under security lights won't mature correctly either.
You're right, it's all about the length of "daylight".
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#19 2008-09-26 2:06 pm
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Farmerkev wrote:
zoees wrote:
Start out 18 on and 6 off. That's a good long day. When you're ready for them to mature switch to 12 on and 12 off. Long day to short day, just like summer to fall.
Field crops under security lights won't mature correctly either.
You're right, it's all about the length of "daylight".
I know. 
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