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#1 2008-09-27 12:02 pm

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Man I hate the latest iTunes

First of all, the "genius" crap totally blows- its just an obvious gimmick to get people to have to go to their store to buy crap. I hide it as best as I can, but you know, if you are managing some of your music, just a misplaced click makes iTunes start the stupid spinning ball to hook up to the store online THAT I DIDNT WANT TO GO TO IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Second, there is a sort of cool thing in the library now where compilations are separated. Except for some reason certain records are lumped in that category even though its all the same artist- and whats more, now the artist isnt even listed in the library of artists!! Like for instance, I wanted to listen to The Germs today, and couldnt even find them listed. I freaked out a little, did a search and there they are in the compilations, but not listed in the library otherwise because their cd is a complete anthology of their work, and is now considered a compilation. I cant find any option to turn this crap off either. UGH!!!


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#2 2008-09-27 12:10 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

Select the tracks and uncheck the Compilation box.  You'll have to this per track as the option doesn't show up in the Info window with multiple selection.

Genius was off for me by default, I'm sure there's a way to turn it off.


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#3 2008-09-27 12:40 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

I don't have a problem with Genius, either. In fact, i haven't even tried it. shrug


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#4 2008-09-27 1:49 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

I haven't noticed any difference in it yet. confused

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#5 2008-09-27 1:56 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

I have the same issue I have with Album Art.

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#6 2008-09-27 2:15 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

I haven't seen much need for Genius yet, usually just listen to my music on shuffle.


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#7 2008-09-27 4:07 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

Store -> Turn Off Genius

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#8 2008-09-27 5:11 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

StaticAge wrote:

First of all, the "genius" crap totally blows- its just an obvious gimmick to get people to have to go to their store to buy crap. I hide it as best as I can, but you know, if you are managing some of your music, just a misplaced click makes iTunes start the stupid spinning ball to hook up to the store online THAT I DIDNT WANT TO GO TO IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Not sure exactly what you're talking about here.  If you're referring to the arrow links that take you to the store, you can hide them with the Terminal command

Code:

defaults write com.apple.iTunes show-store-arrow-links -bool FALSE

Or, far more usefully, you can make it so that by default they browse to the artist/album in your own library:

Code:

defaults write com.apple.iTunes invertStoreLinks -bool TRUE

Fracai wrote:

Select the tracks and uncheck the Compilation box.  You'll have to this per track as the option doesn't show up in the Info window with multiple selection.

You can still do it with a batch of tracks.  The Multiple Item Information window in iTunes 8 has tabs; the Part of a Compilation checkbox is under the Options tab.

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#9 2008-09-27 5:20 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

I hate iTunes because it can't seem to understand that all the songs from an album should be in the album.

I guess it's easier to just show you.

http://s3.supload.com/thumbs/default/itunes.gif


see all the duplicate album covers. I can't get them to all be in one album. it's like itunes just decides that some of the songs even though they have the same name, same import date, all numbered correctly and told that they are part of a compilation, aren't part of the same album. confused

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#10 2008-09-27 6:35 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

Genius has helped me find tunes that I totally forgot about which is easy in a 33,000 song library


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#11 2008-09-27 6:40 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

I wish I could start genius from the dock.

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#12 2008-09-27 6:54 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

I like Genius quite a lot. No doubt, the side bar boarders on awful, but the fact that I can create a randomized playlist, that doesn't require me to persistently hit "next track," is awesome.

But that new grid view needs to die. It works for iPhoto, but it I fail to see its usefulness for music.

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#13 2008-09-27 7:02 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

You can use the Genius with the side bar hidden.

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#14 2008-09-27 7:36 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

Donkey Butter wrote:

I hate iTunes because it can't seem to understand that all the songs from an album should be in the album.

I guess it's easier to just show you.

http://s3.supload.com/thumbs/default/itunes.gif


see all the duplicate album covers. I can't get them to all be in one album. it's like itunes just decides that some of the songs even though they have the same name, same import date, all numbered correctly and told that they are part of a compilation, aren't part of the same album. confused

What do the tracks have for Album Artist?  They should all be blank, or the same (something like "Various Artists" or "Rolling Stone").  It looks like you may have each track's Album Artist set to be the same as its artist, which causes them to be treated as separate albums.

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#15 2008-09-27 8:17 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

miles you are a genius. I did have the "album artist" the same as the "artist"

I just cleared the album artist while leaving the unique name for the artist and now they are all in the same album.

this has been bugging me for some time now. Thanks for educating me in the ways of iTunes.

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#16 2008-09-27 8:42 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

You can.  There are 3 search keys here:
1) Artist
2) Album Artist
3) Album

I've not ever figured out what Album Artist is for, but it sounds like you're using it in place of the other two.  You can have different artists on the same album.


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#17 2008-09-27 9:31 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

Here is an example of where Artist & Album Artist make sense. An Aerosmith album with 16 songs but one is Walk This Way.

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#18 2008-10-02 10:33 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

I just turn Genius off and everything is the same as previous versions.


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#19 2008-10-02 11:28 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

Not everything

A new visualizer has been added
The preferences have been reorganized.
A grid view has been added with 4 sort options (Album, Artists, Genres, Composers)
Album view has been made a supplement of the grid view.
Albums now sort by Title, Artist, Genre, Year, or Rating in all views
You can group Album, Artists, & Composers by letter

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#20 2008-10-02 11:47 pm

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

ScifiterX wrote:

Here is an example of where Artist & Album Artist make sense. An Aerosmith album with 16 songs but one is Walk This Way.

Or you could look at it this way:

' You can identify the individual artists on a tribute album in the Artist field, and then type “various” in the Album Artist field. ' (taken from iTunes Help)

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#21 2008-10-03 12:38 am

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

I never said mine was the only example that having both made sense. I just chose one that was unlikely to be argued.

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#22 2008-10-03 12:43 am

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

I do wish they'd allow for multiple genre tags. Some cross genre songs deserve it and while soundtrack is accurate enough, it's kind of a piss poor excuse for a genre much of the time.

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#23 2008-10-03 1:10 am

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

ScifiterX wrote:

I do wish they'd allow for multiple genre tags. Some cross genre songs deserve it and while soundtrack is accurate enough, it's kind of a piss poor excuse for a genre much of the time.

Agreed. I also wish they'd implement this in some future iTunes version.

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#24 2008-10-03 4:11 am

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Re: Man I hate the latest iTunes

I wish they still gave the option to disable the annoying arrows without having to go into the terminal. All I want is something to organize my music into playlists and sync with my iPod. I couldn't care less about the rest of it. Then again, despite having my career deeply entrenched in technology, I've never been interested in things like social networking, fancy phones, or "digital hub" sort of things. shrug


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