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#26 2008-10-10 7:44 am

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Re: Yahoo hacker caught

everlong554 wrote:

He's a named player.

He does have a name, compelling point.


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#27 2008-10-10 7:47 am

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Re: Yahoo hacker caught

Steyr AUG wrote:

Dude said he compromised the account to specifically look for official emails, conspiracy notes etc, but all he found were personal emails and family pictures.

Palin's administration has been known to repeatedly use non-government email addresses for government business.  It's possible she had more than one  (and being as though she's been on the campaign trail in the national spotlight and out of the governor's office, I wouldn't be at all surprised if her accounts were scrubbed prior to).


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#28 2008-10-10 7:50 am

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Re: Yahoo hacker caught

If I recall, it was revealed that she deletes stuff in her yahoo that is over a week or so old.


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#29 2008-10-10 9:17 am

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Re: Yahoo hacker caught

resedit wrote:

If I recall, it was revealed that she deletes stuff in her yahoo that is over a week or so old.

Odd...that's not mentioned here:

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/first_d … rity/65563

Of course, I needn't tell you by now that she's absolutely innocent, right?

Palin pre-empts state report, clears self in probe

McCain-Palin campaign pre-empts state ethics report, clears governor of wrongdoing


MATT APUZZO
AP News

Oct 09, 2008 21:37 EST

Trying to head off a potentially embarrassing state ethics report on GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, campaign officials released their own report Thursday that clears her of any wrongdoing

Ahhh...the John - 'WH internal investigation finds nothing' - Dean flashback...


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#30 2008-10-10 3:53 pm

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Re: Yahoo hacker caught

Judge orders state to preserve Palin's e-mails
The Associated Press
A judge has ordered the state of Alaska to preserve any government-related e-mails that Gov. Sarah Palin sent from private accounts.

Anchorage Superior Court Judge Craig Stowers ruled Friday in the lawsuit brought by Anchorage resident Andree McLeod against Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee.

Palin has occasionally used private e-mail accounts to conduct state business, and her Yahoo accounts were hacked last month.

The judge ordered the attorney general to contact Yahoo and other private carriers to preserve any e-mails sent and received on those accounts. An assistant attorney general told the court that the governor is no longer using private e-mail to conduct state business.


Brigid O'Shaughnessy: I haven't lived a good life. I've been bad, worse than you could know.
Sam Spade: You know, that's good, because if you actually were as innocent as you pretend to be, we'd never get anywhere.
http://sitruc.blip.tv/file/2661495/

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#31 2008-10-10 3:59 pm

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Re: Yahoo hacker caught

daemon wrote:

Judge orders state to preserve Palin's e-mails
The Associated Press
A judge has ordered the state of Alaska to preserve any government-related e-mails that Gov. Sarah Palin sent from private accounts.

Anchorage Superior Court Judge Craig Stowers ruled Friday in the lawsuit brought by Anchorage resident Andree McLeod against Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee.

Palin has occasionally used private e-mail accounts to conduct state business, and her Yahoo accounts were hacked last month.

The judge ordered the attorney general to contact Yahoo and other private carriers to preserve any e-mails sent and received on those accounts. An assistant attorney general told the court that the governor is no longer using private e-mail to conduct state business.

Fancy lot of good that's going to do for the emails she has already deleted. I seriously doubt Yahoo has much of a retention policy for email on a "free account", much less email that the user has deliberately deleted from said free account.

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#32 2008-10-10 4:13 pm

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Re: Yahoo hacker caught

radarman wrote:

daemon wrote:

Judge orders state to preserve Palin's e-mails
The Associated Press
A judge has ordered the state of Alaska to preserve any government-related e-mails that Gov. Sarah Palin sent from private accounts.

Anchorage Superior Court Judge Craig Stowers ruled Friday in the lawsuit brought by Anchorage resident Andree McLeod against Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee.

Palin has occasionally used private e-mail accounts to conduct state business, and her Yahoo accounts were hacked last month.

The judge ordered the attorney general to contact Yahoo and other private carriers to preserve any e-mails sent and received on those accounts. An assistant attorney general told the court that the governor is no longer using private e-mail to conduct state business.

Fancy lot of good that's going to do for the emails she has already deleted. I seriously doubt Yahoo has much of a retention policy for email on a "free account", much less email that the user has deliberately deleted from said free account.

I'd not be so sure.


Brigid O'Shaughnessy: I haven't lived a good life. I've been bad, worse than you could know.
Sam Spade: You know, that's good, because if you actually were as innocent as you pretend to be, we'd never get anywhere.
http://sitruc.blip.tv/file/2661495/

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#33 2008-10-10 4:20 pm

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Re: Yahoo hacker caught

daemon wrote:

radarman wrote:

daemon wrote:


Fancy lot of good that's going to do for the emails she has already deleted. I seriously doubt Yahoo has much of a retention policy for email on a "free account", much less email that the user has deliberately deleted from said free account.

I'd not be so sure.

I guess we'll see. I've always wondered how much of these free accounts are retained. I figured the storage requirements alone would mean that they would get purged pretty quickly.

That said, I would really like to know what the emails say myself. I find it awfully suspicious that both accounts were nuked.

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#34 2008-10-10 4:55 pm

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Re: Yahoo hacker caught

radarman wrote:

daemon wrote:

radarman wrote:


Fancy lot of good that's going to do for the emails she has already deleted. I seriously doubt Yahoo has much of a retention policy for email on a "free account", much less email that the user has deliberately deleted from said free account.

I'd not be so sure.

I guess we'll see. I've always wondered how much of these free accounts are retained. I figured the storage requirements alone would mean that they would get purged pretty quickly.

That said, I would really like to know what the emails say myself. I find it awfully suspicious that both accounts were nuked.

If Yahoo works at all like Google those deleted mails will be retained for a considerable length of time. Google just dropped their retention from 2 years to 18 months.

The point that should be taken away from this is that no office holder, regardless of party, should use unofficial email due to record keeping laws. Laws intended to promote open and transparent governance.
Something people of any party should be able to agree on.


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#35 2008-10-10 4:57 pm

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Re: Yahoo hacker caught

Pariah wrote:

radarman wrote:

daemon wrote:


I'd not be so sure.

I guess we'll see. I've always wondered how much of these free accounts are retained. I figured the storage requirements alone would mean that they would get purged pretty quickly.

That said, I would really like to know what the emails say myself. I find it awfully suspicious that both accounts were nuked.

If Yahoo works at all like Google those deleted mails will be retained for a considerable length of time. Google just dropped their retention from 2 years to 18 months.

The point that should be taken away from this is that no office holder, regardless of party, should use unofficial email due to record keeping laws. Laws intended to promote open and transparent governance.
Something people of any party should be able to agree on.

I completely agree. I just didn't think Yahoo would keep emails on a "free" account for very long after deletion, given the sheer number of free accounts they host.

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#36 2008-10-10 4:59 pm

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Re: Yahoo hacker caught

You are obviously not following the NSA story and the activity of former Atty. Gen. Gonzales around the search engines.


Brigid O'Shaughnessy: I haven't lived a good life. I've been bad, worse than you could know.
Sam Spade: You know, that's good, because if you actually were as innocent as you pretend to be, we'd never get anywhere.
http://sitruc.blip.tv/file/2661495/

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